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To turn on him establishment Democrats would have had to have had any other stance regarding him. Unfortunately most are just learning about him and assume the stupidest possible stance.
They’re told he took the stupidest possible stance by a lobbyist and just took it as fact to keep some donors happy. Most of the people commenting on him are empty suits who would have no positions at all if they could avoid it. It just happens to be that that sort of person is incredibly easy to corrupt by wealthy interests.
Yep. I have my issues with piker. But you aren’t wrong. He may be too eager to glaze auth left groups. But it tends to come from a good place I think. And more often than not, he stands for the right things unlike the establishment.
assume the stupidest possible stance.
So what’s new these days?
Yep it’s on brand if nothing else for the establishment
Also, I don’t think he really cares what the (establishment) Democrats think. If anything, this only raises his profile by a lot.
ogawd. I don’t want this election to be about Piker.
I legit think Piker is what Jeffries and Kushner discussed.
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This is just another example of Democrats losing initiative and being lead on a leash by Republican talking points.
There is no reason for Democrats to defend Piker, he isn’t running for anything. Even if he was, the Republicans are faking being mad at a lie they told themselfs.
If Democrats want to start talking about any of the many important things that they might need to talk to voters about, they need to pick their battles better and understand what these bad faith traps looks like.
Ps: this is all assuming the establishment Democrats are themselves acting in good faith and not collaborating in an attemp to kill progressive grassroots movements.
Ps: this is all assuming the establishment Democrats are themselves acting in good faith and not collaborating in an attemp to kill progressive grassroots movements.
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I feel like this whole article is written as if they got an interview with Hasan Piker, but they’re posing his response stream content to others as if they’re comments to the story. They also weirdly claim he’s worried about his stream revenue going down, when he’s never indicated this at all, just that it might.
Well I’ll be damned. There was an interview. https://youtu.be/ysMKki0V3SM?is=ZfZYF8RUiWgsTn4o
Remember the GOP “tea party” and the rise of MAGA? The establishment GOP like McCain, Romney and all the big-government neocons complained about Trump not being “presidential” and tried to criticize/hold back the rise of fascism/alt-right populism for fear of losing GOP voters to extremism. The conservative voters and right-leaning independents went along with it, because the alt-right candidates were saying all the hateful things they wanted to say out loud. They were spouting the same self-hating, bootstrap trickle-down far-right capitalist garbage they wanted to hear. The were saying the thing the establishment GOP wouldn’t dare say.
The same thing is happening on the left. Except we have guys like Hasan, who are decent people exposing the hard truths the establishment Dems dare not speak. They push actual leftist policies that the younger Dem base wants. They’re not bought off by big corporate or AIPAC money. And candidates with similar sentiments to Piker are going to sweep the Dem ticket, because they speak to what the base observes with our government.
Another big difference is that the right wing Tea Party movement was astroturfed by assholes like the Koch Brothers while the progressive movement is grassroots fueled by people power. The Tea Party movement was out to trick people while the progressive movement is out to build a better future. The Tea Party was fake as shit while the progressive movement is genuine.
Yup, the tea party was founded by asshats who said, “Gubmet bahhd, I don’t want to pay any taxes at all!” And of course, it was bankrolled by billionaires, large corporations and investment firms, and they slapped a “populist” sticker on it.
Also, they tapped into the sheer rage these people felt over having a Black president. You know how we feel about this fascist regime? This is how the “tea party” repubs felt about Obama, except it lacked any rational basis and was driven by ignorance, a weird attraction to free-market capitalism, lack of education and hatred.
Also, on an unrelated and rather miscellaneous note - after seeing pics of Piker and El-Sayed, I learned that the dude is over 6 feet tall! For some reason, even though I’ve seen his stream before, I thought he was extremely short. When I first saw the pic, I searched for a few more sources of the same meeting of those two, because I thought it might be AI or something.
Anyway, not that it really matters.
But I guess doing things via cam can be deceiving. I had similar experience with two co-workers that I only sometimes saw on camera and mostly knew them by their Teams/Slack pics/avatars or whatever. When I met in-person, at two separate times, I came up on them in the hallway, without warning and had to suppress a double-take because both of them were maybe 5.5 feet or shorter…again, not that it matters, just…unexpected.
If you know Mark Elias from any of his action groups and law firms he is actually 6’8” tall so he’s a giant of a man, figuratively and literally.
Oh yeah, I see him interviewed all the time on Brian Tyler Cohen’s feed.
