Just in case it hasn’t been discussed yet, votes may not have binary exact meaning but reactions does

From retrofed and piefed.social how this user is trying to be sneaky

  • Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zip
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    9 days ago

    Honestly matching the intent of an emoji to the contents of a post is a pretty big ask for a system that isn’t using some sort of AI to process it.

    • thewal@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      There doesn’t need to be a fancy hardcoded solution like that, if only reactions would be have its own page history would help moderators, and like @MxRemy@piefed.social asked, whether they are removable by moderators

      • OpenStars@discuss.online
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        9 days ago

        Emojis are implemented as votes, not comments, so no.

        Fun fact: all emoji reactions are UP-votes, even the puky one 🤣.

              • Ludrol@szmer.info
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                It is consistent with rest of fediverse that doesn’t have down-votes but has emoji-reacts. misske, wafrn and others count them as likes, and likes are upvotes.

              • OpenStars@discuss.online
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                Iirc the development was just whatever could most easily be accomplished, and then once that’s out, the rest becomes less urgent and offers diminishing returns in exchange for additional effort.

                One crucial detail is that ~99% of all Threadiverse users are on Lemmy rather than PieFed (conversely, >99% of Fediverse users are on Mastodon rather than either, or Friendica, nodeBB, Pixelfed, Loops, etc.). So part of the decision I thought was how to structure these so as not to break Lemmy - like if something is neither an upvote nor downvote, how would that affect Lemmy users?

                Tbh I wasn’t deeply involved in making this feature so the last point there is my attempt at a hypothetical scenario by way of explanation, which may not strictly speaking have been an actual valid consideration - or rather I am saying that my words here are not all that precise.

                Many features on PieFed are unpolished like this. Additional contributors and/or funding would he necessary to flesh them out more. Like hashing out an agreement with Lemmy how their side of this would work. And I suppose with Mastodon as well.

                • Dave@lemmy.nz
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                  I just want to point out that Piefed has skyrocketed in users this year. When you look at users active (comment, vote, or post) in a given month, you’re talking about 7k Piefed users vs 35k Lemmy users. Along with Mbin’s 1k MAU, that makes 7k/43k or about 16% of active Threadiverse users are on Piefed.

                  I’m only saying this to point out how awesome Piefed has done at attracting and retaining users this past year, going up from 1700 to over 7000 in 12 months. Lemmy lost 2k MAU in that time, so overall the Threadiverse is growing 🙂

                • wakest ⁂@social.wake.st
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                  @OpenStars while I love to see all these new features being worked on in Piefed, the fragmentation of how things end up actually working ends up making the fediverse ecosystem that much more confusing. I don’t think there is too much of a solution to this other then more and more hashing out of details as we go. But I would love to see more micro standards/agreement across the threadiverse / fediverse / all these things that are not just trying to do mastodon…

      • Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zip
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        That’s a good question that I don’t know the answer to, BUT mander.xyz is a lemmy instance so the mods there can’t see the reactions even if they can remove them.

    • artyom@piefed.social
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      I can agree that it might be a good idea to remove some of the more antagonistic emojis from selection. However you can’t necessarily enforce that on other PieFed instances.

  • CovertOperative@piefed.zip
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    9 days ago

    Some other platforms limit emoji reacts to a handful of positive ones, maybe that would have been better.

  • majster@lemmy.zip
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    I even disabled up/down vote display for myself. Hate this social score number. But such stuff is pretty great for engagement I would guess