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  • _number8_@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 years ago

    no, sometimes people suck and deserve to have their sentiment downvoted - at least on a site where voting has to exist

    on proper forums where there is no voting, there are better ways to discourage behavior, like just ignoring the user / posts. but if the buttons are there you want to click them

    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 years ago

      Slashdot still has the best moderation system. I never understood why it didn’t become the norm. You get x number of mod points per week/month. X is determined by how active you are on the platform. You use those points to up/down vote stuff. And there’s a dropdown list of reasons for each. Having a limited number of points means people use them only when appropriate. And the list of reasons insures the points aren’t just used as Likes or Disagree.

  • 𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬@lemmy.ml
    81·
    2 years ago

    Absolutely not. It is misleading like on YouTube. Before they removed downvotes everyone could see if a video is useful or not. “Best tips and tricks for car repair” … 15341 upvotes? Nice! Maybe it’s helpfu–… 98412 downvotes? Maybe not THAT helpful.

    • _number8_@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 years ago

      it’s so nice being able to see actual downvote count again instead of total score as well. glad lemmy has no motivation to remove that at the moment [what was reddit’s reason? spam prevention? not worth it]

  • notexecutive@sh.itjust.works
    5·
    2 years ago

    No. Downvotes can help drive engagement as more people try to understand what was said.

    People being downvoted doesnt necessarily mean it is hateful, it could just be incorrect or morally objectionable… it’s important that discourse is there, too.

    • positiveWHAT@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 years ago

      But that’s the thing innit, it’s supposed to be a visibility vote, not an “I agree/disagree” vote, but people keep using it as that. Maybe we need more buttons.

  • planet_barf@beehaw.org
    4·
    2 years ago

    I saw my first anti-trans meme on lemmy.ml today. It was a screenshot from a Babylon Bee article.

    On Reddit, I didn’t like how much things would get downvoted if the sub didn’t want to hear them. It really strengthened the hive mind. At the same time, it was an organic way of rejecting garbage like anti trans memes.

    I feel mixed about whether or not they add to a community. I’m not worried about bullying, but I am worried about how they shut down ideas, and encourage everyone to think the same way.

  • iorale@lemmy.fmhy.ml
    4·
    2 years ago

    I think downvotes are ok as long as they show the real ammounts along the upvotes, besides there’s no karma here.
    Also for those that say people could abuse downvotes to bury discussion, well guess what? People abuse upvotes too to increase their visibility, then we should disable upvotes so they can’t be abused either, right?

    I think it’s ok if an instance decides to disable them (or both) if they don’t want or can’t deal with being downvoted, but trying to spread it to other instances is just trying to create a circlejerk.

  • Generator@lemmy.pt
    2·
    2 years ago

    If there’s an election but you only able to vote on one party, is it a democracy?
    That’s how digg.com ended, removed mods and downvotes, and users left.

    I can post something that I think it’s funny or interesting, but other don’t, it’s their opinion to vote what it’s of their interest

  • grean@lemmy.ml
    2·
    2 years ago

    I like that profile view in lemmy does not show the total “score”. So when someone downvotes your comment, they downvote just that, the comment, not you. Which I think is good for mental health.

    Speaking for myself, I feel that possibility of getting downvotes makes me more careful to not invoke negative emotions in others and instead keep more positive tone. In the long run that may be good for everyone’s mental health as well!

  • HiT3k@beehaw.org
    2·
    2 years ago

    I like it today. Depends on how judicious mods are with bans. If there’s a genuine threat of being banned for not be(e)ing nice, it may not matter. But if these communities ever reach the size of something like Reddit, downvotes may actually have a place.

  • LostCause@lemmy.ml
    2·
    2 years ago

    I personally enjoy having the downvotes and seeing them too, but I think it‘s neat communities on here have that option anyway.

  • ion@lemmy.ca
    2·
    2 years ago

    It depends on what the community is about. If it’s a community/instance that features a lot of opinionated talk, downvotes should be off to avoid those with different opinions being downvoted and hidden. On a note advice based/general community I think they should be left on.

  • king_dead@beehaw.org
    2·
    2 years ago

    I’m not a fan personally, I’ve never really cared about old Reddit cliches like “the hivemind” or “downvotes = disagreement”. I just really liked being able to tell bad content to fuck off without getting into a flame war. Beehaw’s moderation against hate speech is why I’m still with it despite the no downvote settings

  • yaspora@baraza.africa
    2·
    2 years ago

    A practice like allowing or disallowing downvotes cannot on its own be judged “healthy” or “unhealthy”.