I’d remove the “men” part and just say I hate the system and the system hates women.
I like that edit a lot!
I don’t hate men. I like a lot of men.
I have a strong distrust of men.
I’m in a world where if I am hurt by a man, my choices would be to pretend it didn’t happen or suffer negative consequences (some long-lasting) while the offender gets a comparative slap on the wrist, if anything at all.
It is not always obvious which men will be a perpetrator, and there are so many of them.
However, I don’t let my caution become hatred. I completely understand the women that do, though.
The men that hate women seem to do so because they are trying to make their own decisions, like deciding who they are open to sleep with, deciding how they would like to style themselves, or deciding what career they want.
One is a matter of safety and being in charge of your own well-being. The other is a matter of control of someone else.
We don’t even hate men, patriarchy isn’t just men, it’s fully intertwined with capitalism. We hate a system that actively devalues anything feminine, when what we really need is balance of masculine and feminine.
Yep. The hatred isn’t towards men, it’s towards violent hierarchical structures that harm and marginalize countless people.
Disgust is reserved for those who willingly enact and enforce that system.
I have a very similar point. Every time i see similar statements or posts, i feel somewhat uncomfortable, because there are many great men in this world which actually value women as people. The problem is with society as a whole and its untold patriarchic norms, which are especially bad when the rules and laws are based on them.
It is hard to fight patriarchy when it produces more of itself. People are forced to behave in certain “norms” even when they dont want to; for example when men themselves are being humiliated by dressing certain way they want. Kids are being educated by patriarchic parents simply repeats the cycle, unless they decide to break it themself as adults. And also, patriarchy harms every person, even men, but of course the women and lgbtq people are the most common targets.
I really appreciate this addition, well said!
I hate this generalising. It only breeds more disdain
It’s a conversation starter for sure.
2/10 post, flat out incorrect and pretty sexist
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hmmmm, really depends . . . . I know some women who hate men, because their fathers were assholes who abused their mothers. I completely understand why such women would hate men categorically, because they were raised horribly by the first man they encountered in life.
It really sucks for men like me, who were raised with love, but because of other men who weren’t raised right, I’m thrown in the same bucket as the abusers because well, I’m just a man, right?
Gently, I think this is a comment is worth bringing up somewhere, but better posed on c/mensliberation or elsewhere. Women just want a space to vent amongst ourselves, and this is the space designated for that, per rule #1. If you’re one of the good ones like you say, then you have nothing to worry about and don’t need to interject in this particular space.
Hi Soma thanks for giving us you’re perspective! We are women only so please don’t comment again thanks for understanding 🥰
I know some women who hate men, because their fathers were assholes who abused their mothers.
That is reinforcing the statement in the meme that women hate men as a system.
It really sucks for men like me, who were raised with love, but because of other men who weren’t raised right, I’m thrown in the same bucket as the abusers because well, I’m just a man, right?
Even here, you’re blaming these men’s parents for not raising them right which is interesting.
There are men that are abusers. If you’re not, then why do you lump yourself in with those types of men?
Good point. Yes absolutely it’s about how they were raised, but abusive men have responsibility for their choices
