I’m new to the community and a relatively new programmer, as well. I’m very comfortable with C and the command line. But, do I need to start studying Forth to really contribute?

  • cerement@slrpnk.netEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Collapse OS – Why Forth? – but I think most of the concatenative languages would be just as flexible, like Factor or Uxn

    I would think C would work as long as you restrict it to a minimal base set: c89 -Wall -Werror -Wpedantic – or be brave and use -nostdlib – but keep in mind, C was a mainframe language, it only later got adopted for microcomputers and then microcontrollers

    but aside from those, you are looking for a language that:

    • doesn’t require a lot of resources (power, memory, or storage)
    • can be bootstrapped relatively easily: sectorForth, milliForth, sectorLisp, uLisp, Uxn
    • has enough existing code (and community) to learn from (and isn’t some grad project that was abandoned after post-graduation)
    • but also doesn’t have so much code that it’s now synonymous with lake-burning scrapers fouling the waters
    • can run in constrained environments: commodity microcontrollers, 8-bit processors
    • can be compiled in those same constrained environments (being able to bootstrap it rather than needing a server farm to cross compile it)
    • Salvagepunk@slrpnk.netBannedEnglish
      23·
      2 months ago

      I’m new to the permacomputing concept, and just now hearing of Collapse OS. So thank you!

  • fafff@lemmy.mlEnglish
    4·
    2 months ago

    I like Forth, but let us be honest, building stuff that last, that is efficient, that will not bitrot, that is built like a tank — you can do it with most of langauges!

    Some projects (most popular one is CollapseOS) had reasons to pick Forth, but there are people with similar ethos who picked up C (check this game).

    Welcome!