Beneath the spectacle of fighters beating each other bloody on the White House South Lawn, fight promoters, tech billionaires, and the Saudi government are working to concentrate wealth and power in fewer, richer hands.

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    2 days ago

    UFC was never a proper tournament (fighters are chosen by admin not by a regimented competition scheme) but now that it lives under the WWE umbrella everyone should receive it as a spectacle and not a sport anyway.

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      2 days ago

      It’s a shame because I absolutely love MMA but hate UFC. Unfortunately they have the best talent and I feel torn on it. Lately I’ve been keeping up with the regional scene more than UFC. At least I can afford the front row seats at these events.

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    2 days ago

    They can have them. Always found boxing/mma/ufc/etc pretty pointless. It’s just the glorification of violence.

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      2 days ago

      It’s just the glorification of violence.

      So that’s boxing, american football, ice hockey, rugby, wrestling (all kinds), all martial arts and even fencing we have to leave to the reactionaries.

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        That’s quite the reductive assertion you have there… Why stop with your list? Aren’t all sports fundamentally a preparation for war?

        Cage fighting feels different. In all the other sports, yes, violence does occur, but in cage fighting the violence is the product. I am sure it’s only a matter of time before Trump or some other rich fuck sits ringside and at the end of a bout points his thumb downward… The man wants to be Caesar, we get it.

        it’s wrong on the WH lawn and it probably should be banned on medical grounds, too.

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          Aren’t all sports fundamentally a preparation for war?

          Perhaps they are… I never said that this was necessarily a bad thing. After all… peace does not work on fascists nor their liberal handlers.

          and it probably should be banned on medical grounds, too.

          If we’re going to do that boxing, rugby and american football should be up for the chop, too - even professional wrestling. You do understand what the term “punch drunk” means, right?

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            I do know what punch-drunk means. And yes, this may need to be a discussion. The mark of a functioning society is that as new information comes in, we learn from it and change.

            If that means we have to talk about banning (American) football and even (English) Football, sure. Before that there’s be a discussion about what changes could be made, which is why English football is talking about stopping players from “heading” the ball. It would change the game, sure, but it would also stop ex-players from early senility, which seems to happen too often.

            Now apply that same logic to cage fighting… There’s not much left of it is there?

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              23 hours ago

              There’s not much left of it is there?

              Same can be said about boxing.

              Look… this isn’t really about the activity itself. It’s really about the propaganda surrounding it. For comparison, think about how the Apartheid-regime used rugby to promote white supremacism and weaponised masculinity.

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          2 days ago

          you are including sports thst do not require violence

          They did not say “requires violence” - they said “glorifies violence.” All the sports I mentionded can easily be accused of that.

          • Squizzy@lemmy.world
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            I disagree, dodging is a massive of part of boxing no doubt but the game is boxing and the goal is knockout.

            Rugby has hits and tackles but they are not particularly violent or vicious, though there are obviously outliers. That said a great game of rugby could be played without any major hits. The game used the prioritise agility and speed and while it still does the game syle has switched to bigger players making big hits. A team of ultra fast strong agile players could make a serious go against a team of heavy hitters.

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              2 days ago

              I disagree, dodging is a massive of part of boxing no doubt but the game is boxing and the goal is knockout.

              You’re absolutely correct - there’s absolutely nothing violent about punching somebody in the face in any way whatsoever.

              Rugby has hits and tackles but they are not particularly violent or vicious

              Clyde, listen to me very carefully… you’re talking to someone who grew up in a fascist country obsessed with rugby. They didn’t fetishise it because it promotes peace - get it?

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      2 days ago

      Oh it is pointless to you so just fuck with them? I have a very fitting quote for you and those who think like that:

      First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

      Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

      Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

      Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

      —Martin Niemöller