I’m getting Proton Unlimited at around 70$ per year because of my region. The cost is still significant but it feels worth it since a lot of their products seem perfectly suitable for me.
Mail - I use Proton Mail and am thinking of switching to it full time. The apps are better than Tutanota imo and since my government has started scanning emails of all citizens, I’d rather get an encrypted mailbox.
Simplelogin - Custom aliases for everything integrated with Proton Pass is super convenient. I can create aliases on the fly and this is included with the Unlimited plan.
Proton Pass - I have been using Bitwarden for years and I’m very happy with that. But with the new Private Equity CEO, I’m not confident about it’s future. Proton Pass is also integrated with Simplelogin.
Drive - I want to switch from Google drive but this sucks afaik. I tried Photo backup and it just doesn’t work. Proton Drive should only be used as an off-site backup for your NAS. I can’t switch from Google Drive/Photos under my current budget. Ente is way superior but costs 4X the cost of Google due to their storage plan pricing.
Auth - I’ll stick with Ente Auth for now. It works perfectly fine for me.
VPN - This is a nice add on. I personally don’t use a VPN but I think I probably should.
Now coming to the downsides,
I know that Proton is dodgy but I don’t think it’s anywhere on the level of Google or Microslop.
There have been cases where Proton Unlimited Accounts were deleted by Proton without proper justification. I don’t remember the context but it’s a major drawback.
I shouldn’t put all my eggs in one basket but basket is pretty close to what I want so Idk.
Please help me decide on what to do. Thanks.
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I paid for Proton mostly so I could route multiple domains to the same email inbox and drop google. For personal use, it’s a great system and I highly recommend it.
The one caveat you should be aware of, is that they will still comply with law enforcement requests by sharing metadata, so keep this in mind if you are using it to organize. If you pay with a credit card, you are handing over personally identifiable information to them, that they will share with law enforcement when push comes to shove
What would you use when organising?
If you need to use email to organize, make a burner proton email and only access it via VPN. That would minimize the risk significantly, but doing anything online will bring risks. So long as we depend on third party tools, there will always be some amount of risk.
Its worth knowing what your threat model is too. If you’re just organizing mutual aid and getting supplies together, you shouldn’t worry about it. If you’re organizing demos or anything high profile then you should probably set up other addresses and tools.
It works, and where it doesn’t, you can believe they are working on it. VPN gets you captcha’d a lot, sometimes you need to switch server because speed can fall down catastrophically. Mail and drive are OK if basic, we’re waiting on a better integration where an attached doc can be opened and/or edited in drive directly. That would help them become a true ecosystem tremendously.
And of course we’re still waiting for a Linux drive client, argh.
Pass doesn’t always “notice” you are on a login page, too often you have to open the app manually and copy-n-paste like it was the year 1995. But Auth works in Pass, that’s cool.
I just switched on photos backup to drive on my phone, and tho it’s been only 48h, it looks like it works but you may have to open the app for the upload to happen.
Dunno what else to say. I’m not happy with everything, but it’s definitely a less worse proposition than having your entire life, mails, pictures, scraped for planet-destroying AI.
I’m generally pretty chill with proton. I’ve been using their vpn for around a year and a half with no real complaints, and been mulling the idea of migrating all my Google stuff over to them kinda like you.
They’re certainly not perfect (there are continuing issues with their vpn on linux apparently?) but it feels like a good sweet spot between privacy and convenience for me.
On Linux the VPN sometimes shits the bed if you have kill switch turned on. Happened to me and it was a pain to remove it and turn it off. Also can’t seem to be able to get it to autorun on start up on Linux mint, but otherwise works fine.
I use proton mail and the VPN, have degoogled to an external physical drive so no need for the drive or other stuff. Should probably check out the pass though.
You should still have an off-site backup for your critical data. Cloud storage with Crypto mater is great.
Probably yeah, but haven’t had the spoons to look into it. Thanks for the recommendation, will check it out.
Its fine but just be careful with the email aliases. That is one way they will trap you so its a ton of work to leave.
I have a custom domain to mitigate that.
Proton is CIA
