Some recent threads have pulled lemmy.ca into the drama around lemmy.world and Luminous5481. We banned them a few days before LW did, and claims have been made that we’re aligned with LW in the pro-zionist behavior LW has been accused of.
~8 days ago Luminous had “murder all Zionists” in their name, during which time they banned recursive_recursion@piefed.ca from the community agitprop memes. The reason given was “zionism, genocide apologia” with a 74 year expiry time. Recursive saw this, was confused and insulted by the insinuation / threat, and retaliatory banned Luminous. This happened 2 days before the LW issue began, and from our point of view was unrelated.
Recursive posted in our internal chat immediately after they placed the ban, letting us all know. We all agreed that being flippant about who Luminous labels a zionist while also repeatedly calling for the murder of zionists, wasn’t appropriate for lemmy.ca. It violates our of our “Be Civil” rule, and is toxic behaviour that doesn’t belong here.
None of us knew at the time why Recursive had been banned, although yesterday while digging I found this thread. Luminous placed the ban because Recursive had banned Deceptichum@quokk.au with a “suspiciously similar ban message” to one MrKaplan used. Recursive used “Troll and perpetual history of bad faith behavior” vs MrKaplan removing a comment as “troll”. That’s a pretty shitty reason to label someone a zionist genocide apologist, while you’re calling for the murder of all zionists.
None of us support Israel, we’re all horrified by what they’re doing. That doesn’t mean throwing around death threats on Lemmy should be tolerated.
Context if you’re unfamiliar with this issue:
Ugh. Thank you admins and mods for sorting through stupid drama so we don’t have to.
Worst part of running a fediverse site IMHO. We just want to build a space where people can come and share memes / discuss ideas in an intelligent + reasonable fashion, without being personally attacked.
for whatever it’s worth I think you’re doing a hell of a job 👍
I was asked to share this here as the user cannot themselves.
The ban for Deceptichum was not only suspiciously worded, it came almost instantly after the one from Lemmy.World. There is zero context for the ban beyond basically copying what MrKaplans ban was and adding outright lies about bad-faith behaviour.
I was banned from the entire instance and had every single one of my communities, even those moderated by other users deleted from Lemmy.Ca because I use the word ‘ZioNazi’ to describe an origination? There was no death threats or any thing else beyond such a basic statement and this happened before anything to do with Luminous. I can’t see where in the rules that word results in such a extreme response.
Not once had I ever received any moderation from lemmy.ca, and had only ever participated in this instance in good faith. Posting music, sharing TIL’s, posting Canadian news, etc. The decision to wipe my entire existence off of this instance can only be seen as directed by MrKaplan and enacted by recursive_recursion due to MrKaplans personal feelings around the word ‘ZioNazi’ of which he took great offence to the ‘Nazi’ part as he is apparently German.
Edit:
- Is the comment that I was instance banned and communities like !world@quokk.au were removed for. Is that really a justified response?I am frustrated to have communities I run removed by the Lemmy.ca team and still no reason given.
Like I said a few days ago, it very much feels like you are in cahoots with Lemmy.world
