• FiniteBanjo@feddit.online
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    6 days ago

    They did starve a lot of people to death and made a lot of people work to death as slaves, though. And I mean, like, a lot. Like the most people ever murdered by leaders, even including the Holocaust, though maybe not per capita?

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      6 days ago

      I mean, plenty of memes here point out that actual scale of the crimes of both leaders.

      This is just some absurdism having fun.

      … or the secret truth why we’re all in hell right now.

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        5 days ago

        Yeah but if I don’t bring it up then people like that Compast guy in this thread below us will try to lie to people about it.

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          Don’t worry, fascist apologists get banned whenever I wake from my terrible demsoc slumber

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              Is there anything wrong with that? If workers are doing wrong certainly I wont support them

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                It is privileged to believe people can just choose labor in nations with poor security nets like the US. Industrial workers include those exploited in the arms industry. MLs arent even pro-worker because they make exceptions on who counts as a worker and oppose unions.

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              5 days ago

              “I care about workers, except the ones on the wrong side of Border, which is Very Important To Me”

              A kind of national variant of socialism.

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            Thanks for banning compost. The way the went mask off when confronted by how little the SU cared about workers rights.

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        5 days ago

        First of all, every nation is a capitalism, so technically yes.

        Second, the USA in it’s 250 year history has never had a famine, much less ones on the scale caused by the USSR and Mao Zedong.

        The communist dictatorships, as direct results of changes in policy and management, make up half the lists of famines total. If you have some secret data that proves tens of millions of people per year die in every democracy, please present it.

        • Pommes_für_dein_Balg@feddit.orgbanned_from_community_badge
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          The US just exports the famines to other countries, but the principle is the exact same. Deny people access to food in order to force them to align with you politically.

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            So to clarify, when you combined the stats from every nation on earth, you come up with less deaths than from singular famines in communist dictatorship and still call that about equal?

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                You mean state capitalist dictatorships. What most people call communism including Stalinists and MLs is actually just state capitalism and couldn’t be further away from communism.

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                5 days ago

                13,325 died in 2023 in China of starvation, more per capita than some nations and less than others. The one famine fulfilled no purpose, it was a pointless slaughter.