“This is not Europe’s war,” EU tells Washington in bruising rebuke on Iran even as oil prices rise.
  • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.todayEnglish
    23·
    2 days ago

    Gee, the guys he stupidly threatened and bullied a few months ago, don’t feel like pulling his ass out of the fire now?

    Hilarious.

    • subversive_dev@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      6 hours ago

      I’m sure any day now the Euros will be announcing their independent foreign policy and diversified economic ties

  • panda_abyss@lemmy.caEnglish
    321·
    2 days ago

    There’s just no end game here.

    They’re right, it’s an open ended war, and the only thing that can stop it is the US deciding to stop it.

    And even then, there’s the question of does Iran retaliate with a US retreat (probably no, but after this oil states will be strategically building away from the strait).

    Even if they send war ships, what do they accomplish? Next step is the US will tell them to have courage and buy tons of American missile interceptors and patrol the waters, making European soldiers targets instead of American soldiers.

    Why would the French or Germans want their own soldiers to die for nothing, to shield a country threatening them, and with no ability to influence the end to this (and likely drag it out longer).

    • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      14·
      1 day ago

      Well, that’s the funny part: at this stage the war only really ends if Iran wants it to end.

      If the US stops bombing them they can still keep on blocking passage in the Straight, pounding American bases in the region and attacking Israel - America unilaterally disengaging will only make it easier for Iran since fewer of their missiles and drones will get intercepted.

      Further, America bombing a school full of kids means that Iran has a lot more motivation as well as internal and even external support to extract their pound of flesh from America, Israel and their allies, and all those Golf nations around Iran with American bases in them are the easiest allies of America and Israel to go after and that in turn will keep on having all manner of massive side-effects from keeping oil and gas prices up to even weakening the US Dollar’s Reserve Currency status.

      Last but not least, if indeed as some say the US and Israel are running low on interceptors AND if Iran’s planning for a war with America also included this factor, then it’s quite likelly that we’re entering the phase when Iran does the most damage, which would mean that Iran is even less motivated to stop if America disengages now that it can really start hurting their adversaries.

      The shit that Trump and Netanyahu started seems to have gone beyond Kicking A Smaller Kid In The Playground and into Opening Pandora’s Box territory.