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      Does anybody really believe that? Or that only he can determine if Iran has unconditionally surrendered?

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    Press secretary Karoline Leavitt said: ‘This operation will result in lower gas prices in the long term.’

    This is only if they manage to occupy Iran. After murdering their children, and treasonously backing out of TWO working nuclear deals, there’s not a snowball’s chance on the sun that Iranians will ever trust the US or the West again. Even then, we would just literally be stealing their natural resources.

    What happened to this being about blocking their nuclear program? Now that the price of oil has doubled, they just pivot to “prices will fall once we take their oil”? These people can’t even lie convincingly. They can’t plan or orchestrate a war against a lesser force with the most powerful military ever conceived. As of now, the US Navy cannot secure the Straight of Hormuz. How long will it take to end the conflict and de-mine the entire strait?

    Democrats need to HAMMER this home: Trump’s war costs EXACTLY this much at the pump, every day. There needs to be a ticker on every news broadcast showing live gas prices around the nation.

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      Democrats need to HAMMER this home: Trump’s war costs EXACTLY this much at the pump, every day. There needs to be a ticker on every news broadcast showing live gas prices around the nation.

      Except then they’d have to actually oppose the war, and they won’t do that because their donors support imperialism.

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      is there any point? it’s clear now Muricans will do nothing meaningful to fight this regime

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      Democrats will be mostly for the war, even as they hem and haw about this or that. They are mostly all aipac’s creatures, if not epstein “pals.”

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    Well if this doesn’t cause oil to skyrocket then nothing will.

    Glad I still have my EV, now if I can just find a pallet of solar panels.

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      And even then, can’t the US military detect them and blow them up? Or have cheap drones patrolling ahead of ships to trigger them?

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        I’m not sure the insurance companies will pay out when someone loses a quarter billion dollar freighter plus cargo and associated personnel in a warzone when they come back with “but we put a cheap drone out front just to check for mines” lol

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          I dunno if a “cheap drone” can produce the same magnetic response that a fucking cargo ship can, but it seems extremely unlikely.

          And what, you have 2 in the water ahead of you? Is that enough for it to be clear for a cargo ship? They function perfectly all the time and catch every single mine?
          What happens when 1 finds a mine? How many extras do you carry? What happens when you run out, “just turn around”?

          Drones could probably clear a shipping channel, but at some point and actual ship is going to have to go through it.
          And the suez canal was blocked for ages due to 1 ship, even after having been operated for decades. That, except the ship sinks.

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            Plus I think many of the mines do not float, they lurk below the water line, making them harder to spot.

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    I don’t know much of anything about sea mines, but I’d wager that they are very inexpensive compared to the countermeasures / clean-up efforts.

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      Depends on the type of mine and the method of detection. It’s really hard to find stuff in the ocean, and the strait is a big place. You’d have to do a lot of sweeping by radar and hope you’re able to find them before they find you. And Iran is likely to just destroy such a drone when they see it.

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      Sonar-equipped and fiber-controlled submersible drones / robots can. Ordinary sea drones are just small boats with cameras for finding a target, typically made of aluminum or fiberglass. They typically don’t have sonar, ride on the surface, and their magnetic signature needs massive amplification to trigger a mine.

      Signature amplification might be doable, though.