It’s not april fools yet

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    I’ve just deployed bunch of win10-iot devices in an engineering workshop with write protection. Those are supported until 2032 so we’re good.

    Gonna continue running linux at home, tho. In the office, because of autodesk, we’re gonna have to have something windows.

    Fuck autodesk

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      I’m glad to see it was ai translation hallucination, I appreciate you and others in the thread providing a much more accurate link.

      That said, I wouldn’t be shocked if MS was behind an easily debunked and inflammatory article like this one. Then when they release their actual unpopular plan, people may say “well that’s not that bad compared to what that one article said they were doing.”

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    Subscription-based, AI-Focused

    “Hey team, so how can we make a worse Windows 11?” - Microslop

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      will be a modular and AI-focused OS

      Take all the parts that used to be included and put them behind individual pay walls. I suggest Control Panel, powershell, network access, adding icons to start menu and task bar, using multiple monitors, the registry, right click menus. I’m sure even more could be added to this list with each starting at $5/mo, on top of the access fee and one drive expansions as access to your own hdd (other than the OS) is restricted behind a $20/mo sub.

      Can I get my bonus now? - Microslop team

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        “Hi there User! It looks like you’re trying to ctrl-alt-delete. Unfortunately this is an al a carte feature for Premium Tier Users only. Upgrade now and get a totally free trial of right-click for one month on us!”

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          Oops! You hit your CTRL+ALT+DELETE quota for the week, would you like extra usage? ($5 minimum, no refunds, rates may increase after you accept charges)

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    What is this news outlet? This seems like just an outright lie…

    Here’s another article from a more well known source saying the opposite is true. That they have no windows 12 release plans for 2026 and instead they’re trying to fix the issues with 11 and reduce the amount of AI is being pushed on the user.

    https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/no-an-ai-focused-windows-12-is-not-coming-this-year-false-report-gets-the-facts-completely-wrong

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    At my job we are working with a few air gapped Windows machines which is already really annoying because Microslop doesn’t offer offline installers for anything related to Windows 11 anymore. I expect this to get even more difficult over time.

    Also:

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      I’m as anti-M$ as anyone, but this just isn’t true. The windows update catalog still exists for offline patches

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        Ok, where can I download the Media Feature Pack for Windows 11 N as an offline installer.

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          That’s a whole different story…UWP apps offline for an EU build is a “best of luck to you, pal” thing

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            Why is this arbitrarily “a whole different story” and who said anything about UWP, it’s the media codecs we depend on. Windows 10 N offered an offline installer for that “optional feature” and now Microslop makes my life more difficult for no reason at all.

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              You specifically referenced the media pack, which in win 11 looks like it’s packaged as a pseudo Windows Store application. You also said Windows N, which is a different case (and the reason you even need it in the first place). I get the EU/GDPR thing, and yeah it’s probably a pain, but you said “doesn’t offer offline installers for anything relate to Windows 11 anymore”, without qualifying that is your specific niche case. Have you tried K-Lite? Do kids even use that anymore?

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                No alternative codecs wont do, the application we are building has a hard dependency on these specific dlls due to another dependency requiring them. It was also just one example of many excuse my hyperbole. Here is another one, try to get winget to work with a local package cache. You have to go to some third party developer for that. Want another one? How about debugging windows binaries in an offline environment. Resonable requirement? Microsoft says no.

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      Our work uses laptops and it’s already a pain in the ass with Microsoft office being subscription based cause they are often in areas with no internet or cell reception then bam, “please login”

      Fuck!

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      They’re hoping for the every other release is half decent trend they have been following since win95

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      I knew this would be here…

      Look, I’m normally not one to defend M$ but this just isn’t the case. One dude who was on stage for something else, who yes worked for M$ but isn’t PR or anything, made that statement as an offhand comment. The press ran with it, as they are wont to do.

      Bottom line is, M$ never claimed W10 was their last os. It was “just some guy”.

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        By all accounts it was someone who didn’t speak English as their first language and described the version as “last” when they meant “latest”.

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        Please watch 15 minutes of unskippable ads to be eligible for Co Pilot Premium Plus loot boxes, some of which may contain a platinum WindowsCOPY NFT which can be exchanged for up to ten CopyOnBlockchain transactions.

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        Im 500 in and still haven’t gotten a shiny clippy. At 1000 I heard theres supposed to be a guaranteed drop. So I should probably keep going right?

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    Windows 12 could be released as early as this year and will be a modular OS, meaning users will have the option to add or remove features, aiming to provide more flexibility.

    Does this mean I can remove the AI? /s

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      It is possible with W11 to install without copilot and other garbage using the right unattended setup XML and installer that facilitates it

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          I actually did switch my gaming PC to Linux because I decided it was going to be less effort than trying to force Windows to obey.

          It was the way Microsoft was progressively disabling workarounds that was the final straw. As soon as a way to disable telemetry or something became widespread, it wouldn’t work any more with the next update and you needed to find new methods.

          Linux just does as it’s fucking told.

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          I had to learn about it so my kid could play the games he wants to play that don’t work on Linux.

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          I did a Tiny11 install with Rufus, felt accomplished and then asked me the exact same thing. Have been running Linux for 6 months now and didn‘t boot up my W11 partition since last year.

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    Windows 12 Reportedly Set for Release This Year as a Fully Shitty, Shit-Based, Shit-Focused Slop.

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    It’s honestly impressive how many unattractive “features” they’re apparently packing into this.

    Unfortunately, these are the only bright sides to this new OS. Microsoft’s Copilot, the AI assistant the company has been aggressively injecting across the ecosystem, will now be a core part of the next Windows iteration rather than a supplementary feature.

    11 is bad enough, but it seems like 12 will be infected with copilot at every level of the OS rather than just shoehorned into every single app.

    These AI features won’t come cheaply, with Windows 12 set to debut a new hardware requirement just as its predecessor did with the TPM 2.0 requirement. This time around, a dedicated NPU would be required, a specialized processor designed to handle AI tasks.

    Oh, great. Yet another new hardware requirement, this time for unwanted AI, in a marketplace with runaway hardware prices caused by AI. On the plus side, this will make it easier for most people to not switch.

    Some features of Windows 11 might also be locked away behind a subscription model that are expected to be “advanced AI services”, but the core OS will be a one-time purchase only.

    Ok, so not only are you charging money for the OS, you’re also taking away existing features and making people pay a subscription?

    The modular aspect of the OS is Microsoft’s CorePC architecture project that they’ve been working on for years. It will redefine the Windows experience by allowing the addition and removal of components. This will help customise the OS for each build, whether it’s a lighter-weight system, a gaming-prioritized build, etc.

    Can we remove copilot, the subscription model, advertisements, and spyware?

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      This time around, a dedicated NPU would be required, a specialized processor designed to handle AI tasks.

      Releasing an OS that requires an NPU when Intel and AMD are only this year starting to ship desktop CPUs that even have an NPU seems very aggressive.

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        Doubly so factoring in it’s right now at a time when, hardware costs are skyrocketing. Getting a PC with the same specs as the one I bought in 2023, is almost double the price today. Even steam machines and consoles are delaying themselves because they can’t find a way to release at a reasonable price point.

        Everyone has basically been told “3 months ago was the last time to buy a computer for a while until either the AI bubble pops, or some magical huge increase in manufacturing happens to keep up with demand”. Point is this is literally the worse time in history to tell people to go buy a new PC.