Ok so Lenovo is essentially bringing graphene to Motorola phones, and just flew past damn near every other laptop in repairability.
If this is a sign of things to come, I’m going to have trouble not getting hyped. I’m already at half chub for whatever phone happens, and now this t series news comes along. I’m going to jizz my pants soon
Keep in mind these are all business oriented devices, so expect them to cost accordingly. Still a timely & smart move by Lenovo, tho.
The Ts have always been, it’s why you buy’em used.
Which means several years since these are so repairable. I was also talking about the Moto phones, however - those may be available used sooner.
I wonder what the parts pricing would be like. A genuine lenovo screen replacement is usually about 80% of the ticket price of the laptop.
Yes, this, it’s all good that megacorps “embrace™” reparability (laws?), but the financial aspect is a key aspect of reparability.
If parts aren’t cheap the theoretical ease of reparability is almost irrelevant (apart from the parts so standardised & open that multiple manufacturers offer their parts).
And it can change with time depending on the company - if a manufacturer wants more profit or new units sold, it can just make the parts more expensive. So the actual reparability score can change daily & depending on region.
We need reparability laws that also cover overall cost regulation (including eg software locks of fees).
If so, then the sum of the parts is truly greater than the whole - explaining why Lenovo would want to get into the parts business badly enough to do this. I imagine they’ll reduce the cost noticeably to encourage adaption, then jack it back up once they feel they’re firmly entrenched enough.
No, parts are a complementary business (bcs of how the business/market is set up, life cycle of the laptops, the price of the parts is arbitrary, not marketed, etc - it doesn’t exists without the core business).
What makes financial sense doesn’t really have to make any economical sense unfortunately.
But I would want to live in such a place where it would.
Having said that, Lenovo sure seems to be making some sensible headlines recently.
Is this an answer to what Framework is doing?
Well, now I know what to look for in a few years. I mean, it was probably going to be a used Thinkpad, but now it certainly will.
Sweet! I had juuust ordered an X13, but I just canceled it!
Looks like the T14 Gen 7 won’t be available until April 2026 though. Almost! Gonna wait for that instead!
I’m replacing my Dell Pro 13. I hate the keyboard on this thing, the
Ultra 5 236VCPU and camera on the Dell Pro 13 aren’t fully compatible with Linux, and I want to distance myself from US tech.I recently got my parents an X13 with a slightly older CPU and everything 100% works in Linux, camera, bluetooth, everything. (Yes, I have my parents running Linux.)
If the CPU isn’t socketed it ain’t a 10/10.
How often are you replacing laptop CPUs again?
Can’t since they’re no longer socketed.
But why would you is my point? On a desktop you can upgrade. But on a laptop, by the time it would need a CPU upgrade, there’s enough other shit wrong that it doesn’t make sense financially.
Are you in the right community?
Reducing ewaste for starters, ensuring i can keep making the most out of the hardware.
Repairability?CPU failure is rare. Screen, keyboard, storage media failure much more likely.
CPU failure is rare.
It is. How do i upgrade the CPU on a laptop again?
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Are you passive aggressively gatekeeping fucking lemmy? That wouldn’t reduce ewaste. It would take more materials to make each unit too.
How would just swapping out the CPU vs dumping the whole unit not reduce ewaste?!
The CPUs rarely need replacing in a laptop.
A socketed design uses more materials to make vs a soldiered one.
If you make 10,000 laptops and spend the extra material on a socketed CPU that maybe 2 would make use of, you have wasted material.
Dramatic punctuation?!?;/“‘
I’ve had two Lenovo laptops, and both were/are NIGHTMARES for repairability! BOTH require disassembling the whole machine to replace the damn keyboard, and played coy games with their warranty support! NOW they decide to make their computers repairable. I’m fed up with them!
