This could be huge. Graphene team’s insistence on using dogshit hardware will be challenged, and Motorola likely has the sway to unblock banking apps (on certified phones)for users on grapheneOS. Hopefully
Yeah, I mean the one thing Motorola always shit the bed on and I think even more so recently, is providing software updates. It makes sense for them to essentially outsource that and have GrapheneOS do the heavy lifting. It just sounds all too good to be true, lets see once the first phone comes out.
I haven’t heard Pixel phones described as “dogshit hardware” before. Aren’t they pretty much on a level with the competition?
Not even close, maybe you were tricked by the price
I just wasn’t paying attention. I stopped looking at hardware specs (apart from storage and memory) some years ago when everything seemed to run well enough. I’ve been using second-hand Pixels for GrapheneOS and that’s another reason I didn’t pay attention, since they were the only option for it and I was buying old stuff anyway. I’m curious to see what Motorola and GrapheneOS come up with.
Fair enough! Phones have absolutely gotten to the point where most people can’t effectively tell the difference between a mid range phone from 5 years ago and the latest flagship. All my Pixel-owning friends had to switch/upgrade after -at most- two years due to various issues, which is what colored my opinion of them being dogshit.
Does this mean more than 3-4 years of security updates?
I’ve been waiting for this news. Always rubbed me the wrong way that in order to use graphene, you had to buy a google phone.
This definitely makes me interested in Moto as my next phone (in a year or two).
Cautiously optimistic about this. The fact that I still have to have to have a Google phone irks me, but if this all pans out I can finalize the divorce from Google once and for all.
using a google phone has been a deal breaker for me so i was about to go with a lineage pre-installed phone, but i think i’ll just wait for this now.
Motorola is on the boycott Israel list, how are they better than the Pixels? (Which also are I guess)


