• 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip
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    7 months ago

    So, why are you asking me to deescalate? Have you asked everyone else in this post and the author of the comic itself? Why pick me?

    can’t speak for the other commenter, but i will assume it was because of the whataboutism.

    no one disputes that car drivers break a rules, but most of them at least know they are breaking the rules. cyclists really confidently act like the rules don’t exist (even that may depend on where you are).

    few years back, some non-profit group advocating for bicycles in my city made a presentation for a media, where they showed a video how much faster a cyclist is going through some specific route during the working-day traffic jam than the car.

    and then you saw the cyclist ignoring lights, driving on a sidewalk where he had no business to be and so on. he broke like a billion traffic rules during his 15 minute trip and they really acted like they didn’t even know that some rules applied to him.

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      7 months ago

      Dude, come ride in my car sometime. Practically every driver out there thinks the rules don’t apply to them, either. I’d record them on a dash cam, but I don’t want to spend my life editing videos for YouTube. It’s a fucking jungle out there. As a practical matter, what’s the difference between not knowing the law (an assertion I reject) and ignoring it?

      But car brains only get mad at cyclists for it. A car running a stop sign or rolling right on red is treated as business as usual. I see cops doing it.

      I had to laugh at the links to deaths caused by cyclists. Two, world wide. Death from drivers doing stupid shit are so common, they don’t even bother writing articles about it. It’s not newsworthy. Cars do a lot more damage when they hit something.

      And I say this as a cyclist that does follow the laws, aside from occasionally rolling a stop sign, when it’s safe (Idaho stop, but it’s not legal in my state).

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        7 months ago

        As a practical matter, what’s the difference between not knowing the law (an assertion I reject) and ignoring it?

        as a practical matter, there is no difference. but if one side is acting like a hypocrite pretending it is only the other party breaking the rules, it is worth pointing out.

        But car brains only get mad at cyclists for it.

        i am pretty sure people complain about other drivers all the time.

        Death from drivers doing stupid shit are so common, they don’t even bother writing articles about it. It’s not newsworthy. Cars do a lot more damage when they hit something.

        yes, this is true. but should that mean that cyclists should ignore the traffic rules, or what is the point?

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          7 months ago

          but if one side is acting like a hypocrite pretending it is only the other party breaking the rules, it is worth pointing out.

          On that I agree. Drivers regularly complain about cyclists as though they aren’t doing similar shit. Where are the comics about that?

          But car brains only get mad at cyclists for it.

          i am pretty sure people complain about other drivers all the time.

          Show me the comics. Show me the online vitriol. Show me the death threats drivers get online every time a video is posted.

          yes, this is true. but should that mean that cyclists should ignore the traffic rules, or what is the point?

          The point is that people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

          They only get mad at cyclists because it’s an “other” group they can see.

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        7 months ago

        But car brains only get mad at cyclists for it.

        I’m going to assume that you’re so blinded by your prejudice against “carbrains” that you haven’t seen all the posts bemoaning speeding, passing in the wrong lane, riding people’s bumpers, “when a car swerves around you at mach 3 just to get stuck at the same light” to paraphrase a meme I saw on lemmy like last week, etc, and it’s everywhere not just lemmy.

        You are probably just such a bikebrained chaincel that you haven’t noticed it, but it’s there.