People often find it odd when I say I don’t play PC games, but it seems rather complicated (and also expensive) to me.
I mean, I enjoyed it back when I had friends with PS, but I never had to set up anything myself. Searching around it seems rather… overwhelming, and I don’t know if it’s actually the case.
- PC seems most versatile, and with the prices, I considered piracy, but I would need a separate computer for security. Hell, I wouldn’t even trust the device firmware on it afterwards.
- So I considered maybe paying the amounts, but I went to check some games and lo and behold, kernel-level anti-cheat. Great, so pirated games might even have less malware in the end.
- Since I’d need a separate device anyway, how about getting a PlayStation. With a disc drive, I want to be able to go future proof and fully offline. Well, about that… apparently it needs to verify the disc drive online. For what? It’s a BluRay drive, either it works or it doesn’t. And then I heard another shitty thing, “most games are released almost unplayable and need updates right away”. So they just release Alpha quality software on the most permanent medium???
So that just sounds like shitty experience no matter what. How is it actually? I’d expect consoles to be least buggy and fully future proof.
The only thing I ever had was a $4 NES bootleg console from AliExpress, Contra was glitched out and Battletank unplayable because they forgot the select button, but ok, $4.
What year is this?
As you didn’t play games you can go and play banger titles from previous years that you can grab for pennies when they go on frequent sales. There is dedicated community of !patientgamers@sh.itjust.works.
kernel-level anti-cheat is vary good headline clickbait for media to write on. Most games don’t have them. Some competitive multiplayer games have them but you can check it case by case basis.
If you REALLY want to have separate device for gaming, as you don’t really need that, there are few options to choose from. Playstation, Xbox, and Switch are the mainstream consoles right now. The have a fair share of anti-consumer practices and they offset the cost of hardware by making games more expensive, but you buy convenience and simplicity. The lemmy bubble will tell you to buy Steam Deck and it is really fine choice to make. (Steam is releasing new hardware this year so you might take a look)
Steam has 2 hours of playtime return policy, so you can return the game if you don’t like it. Their hardware pitch is to sell console-like experience (Playsation etc.) on PC. They succeeded in that regard.
I think the first question you should answer is which games do you want to play, the answer will be vastly different if you say Astro Bot or Factorio. So for this I will try to base it on my own gaming preferences, which is mostly single-player games. Answering your points:
- You don’t really need a separate PC, there’s no reason to be that paranoid.
- Most games don’t have kernel level anti-cheat, only competitive multiplayer games, and those you can’t pirate, so they’re irrelevant to your other solution.
- Yeah, long gone are the days of popping a disc and playing.
Ok, so, this is my personal opinion, but as long as you don’t care about competitive multiplayer games it should be a valid option for you as well.
Get a Steam Deck. Pros:
- It’s plug-and-play for most stuff, so while you will need to download the content it should just work without fiddling.
- Pricewise is very good, you might be able to build a desktop for cheaper, but that would require a lot more effort than going to steam and clicking buy.
- It’s a separate device, also it’s portable, and while that might not be important currently, it’s nice to be able to pack a gaming rig in your backpack when you have to travel for some reason.
- With some minimal setup can run emulation of anything up to ps2 era very comfortably. It’s a very simple setup with just running one script to set things up.
- It can (if you’re willing to jump through hoops to set it up) run and even download pirates content, although with the ease of access of games on Steam I hardly think it’s worth it.
Cons:
- It’s Linux, so it can’t run games that actively try to prevent you from running Linux, e.g. some online competitive games, in short anything that would require kernel-level anti-cheat.
- It’s a lot more expensive than running games on whatever laptop/desktop you have with you.
- It’s not that powerful, because it’s portable it’s very low power, so while it can run Cyberpunk, it won’t look good or flow nicely. If this is your only deal breaker, you might want to wait a bit because very shortly Steam will launch Steam Machines which are the same thing except trading portability for power.
Edit: Re-read your question, you are talking about games in general. A Switch might be a good buy, straightforward and you can usually find people willing to play in person or online for the more popular games. The games are rarely on sale though. Highly recommend a pro controller if you go this route.
For PC, there’s basically never kernel level anti-cheat, only a few frankly not great games go that route.
As far as expensive goes, there’s a ton of great PC games you can get for less than $5 during steam sale. The initial buy-in is more for a maybe $1500 PC, but you will make that up after a few dozen games. If you know a PC gaming enthusiast, imply you would play with them if you had a PC and they might sell you an old rig for dirt cheap. I’ve sold a few that way for like $100.
Set-up is easy as steam is the only program you need and controllers are plug-and-play. If you are willing to risk a little work, I found Linux Mint as an OS really easy to install and use, and then it will be future-proof (unlike windows) as well as free. You may have to troubleshoot something weird, but their forums are super helpful.
There’s WAY too many good games to be worried about playing the latest most expensive cutting edge slop. A cheap gaming PC from the marketplace of your choosing and a new SSD is all you need.
Piracy is also generally very safe, if you find a certain reputable russian steam forum, they have a very strict vetting policy. If you’re that cautious about that sort of thing, you can always download the clean Steam files and apply the crack (drag and drop) yourself.
It’s the closest you can get to the source without being in the scene.
New consoles are expected after the RAM crisis, whenever that ends, but I believe you’re right about the futureproofing aspect. The consoles of today are capable of a LOT, the only thing that will get devs to stop releasing games for them is if Sony/Nintendo take a page from graphics card companies and stop selling them.
Install Steam, install game, click play, play.
This is an oversimplification, but the gist of how it works. This also assumes you know how to use a PC generally.
That’s (more or less) my experience. I’ve installed a couple of other launchers, and it’s fine.
Although Steam is easy to use, I find it incredibly frustrating and I expect OP will too. It needs an internet connection, it constantly updates the Steam client, and it seems impossible to turn off updates for games. You should expect that at least once a week you will have to wait several minutes to over an hour to launch a game. This is especially true for games that you play rarely, because there will always be am update waiting next time you try to play. You may have better results if you have a faster Internet connection.
In addition, I found the lack of control to be very frustrating. I don’t want to have to fight a separate client whenever I want to play a game. I very much miss when you could just install the game from a CD and it worked. (although I don’t miss how often games used to crash tbf)
For casual gamers, Steam is very easy to use and it mostly just works. It’s also nice having so many games in one place. But it’s not the right thing for me
If you want to download once and then never have to deal with updates unless you want to, there’s always GOG.
(Also, yes, Steam is a lot more comfortable with a faster connection. I generally spend more time waiting for Vulkan shaders to be precompiled than for downloads to finish.)
Yeah, steam really sucks ass if you have a bad connection. Not only that, but because Valve is a relatively small company some bugs go unfixed for years, like there’s this one bug where some people, with certain linux systems, just can’t select items on a drop down menu. It’s really problematic because then you can’t uninstall games and a whole bunch of other things… this bug has it’s own thread somewhere on github that’s been active for almost three years, which is god awful.
I am wondering if Factorio is a good or absolutely terrible suggestion… I mean the basic controls are pretty simple, but there is also the risk you may never see sunlight again. But there is a free demo and it should run on fairly low spec PCs so wouldn’t need any special extra hardware.
The factory must grow.
Why would you need a separate device?
As a physical sandbox I suppose.
I personally haven’t had a virus in years. If OP is really scared about getting one I’d suggest sandboxing the content via software. Anything else is overkill imho
Ehh… I’ve yet to get a virus from pirating games. Only virus I’ve ever gotten was on my childhood PC when my uncle was watching some sketchy adult content. I was just playing neopets at the time, so I doubt it was me
Kernel level anticheat is mostly in MMORPGs, which is my preferred genre, though there are some games without it. Notably Final Fantasy XIV, and Guild Wars 2 have no anticheat in the client at all. It also depends on the anticheat how much I’m willing to put up with it. XIGNCode is a hard no from me, but nprotect, and easyanticheat are both whatever IMO. Pick your threat model though.
The most complicated game is Wurm Online, and that’s because there’s something going on with my desktop where it just. Crashes. Constantly. I can usually get it to stay on indefinitely after 8 restarts, but it’s annoying.
Consoles are only future proof if you consider that eventually games will stop being released for them, and parts will stop being made. Sure you’ll be able to play the games you already own on them forever, but… Also your PC will be able to run any game on them forever, at least until the hardware degrades, but that also goes for consoles.
If you want to go fully no DRM, GOG is your best bet for most games. Itch.io is also there, but it’s mostly indie games, which isn’t everyone’s scene.
Overall I don’t think of it as complicated, but I’ve been PC gaming consistently for… 25 ish years? I’m largely used to it.
Portal is very nice, runs on my school laptop. (I haven’t really played a video game ever before)
- I haven’t had a virus in recent years, and I’m pretty sure that the ones I had many moons ago were just the virus scanners being scared of a keygen exe. Just go with your gut and you will pretty much be fine. Use a sandbox if you want to be extra safe, but a separate computer is completely and utterly overkill.
- Yeah true. But that’s only a select few games. Most indie titles forgo DRM altogether, and most titles that use for example denuvo remove it after a while (mostly after enough sales) for the free performance boost.
I feel like I’m witnessing e-anti-vax. “I don’t believe computer viruses were really that bad. I had polio.exe and I turned out just fine. Virus scanners were just a lie of big e-pharma.”
Here I am, veteran of the great warez, shaking my fist and telling people to get off my internet. I agree with the gist, but fuck, that’s a take.
No one says you gotta play games coming out today.
If you only want to play single player, want it to be cheap, and have a great library of games to play… .Pick up a used PS2 or Gamecube. PS2 lets you play both PS2 and PS1 games, gamecube…if you can find a gameboy adapter for it for cheap, also opens up gameboy/gameboycolor/gameboy advance games. real versatile.
Should be able to find one used online/garage sale/classified for cheap. games are abundant, cheap, and amazing.
anything older is starting to get expensive, and anything newer will typically be always online/online drm checks/etc.
Especially true with how AI is absolutely ruining hardware prices atm, with ram costing as much as goddamn video cards.
Course, thats assuming you want to play on the actual hardware, setting up a retropi for SNES/NES/Genesis/ETC is also viable, bit more fraut trying to find the roms nowadays, though. is the best, most affordable option if you want to play PS1 or older, though.
A budget midrange PC with good performance would still cost about $1,500. That might be expensive compared to a $700 console but put it this way - I built a flagship in Feb 2017 for about $3,000. When the Xbox Series and PS5 consoles came out in Nov 2020 they were raving about this measurement of power called Teraflops. My flagship had more power than these consoles and in most cases ran games better. As you may know those consoles haven’t been replaced by a new generation yet, so that build is still med-high quality.
In terms of raw performance a good PC is always the best choice. Choose a motherboard with built in wireless and you can use Xbox One >, PlayStation 3 > or any third party controller via Bluetooth. Buy a USB adapter and you can use Xbox 360 > controllers via RF.
Steam has a ‘big picture mode’ that can be set to turn on at startup - if you wanted you can simplify everything to booting the machine and powering up a synced controller - sofa friendly UI.
Multiplayer gaming is free. Heavily discounted games are more common. Pirated copies, as long as you choose the right sources (start with FitGirl), are top tier. Community-made mods that improve or fix games. GOG for DRM free copies. More control over data collection and updates. Offline/sandboxed games that think collecting your IP, age, device hardware and playtime is necessary for a solo campaign. Heroic Launcher for GOG and adapting DRM games bought on Epic/Amazon/Steam, Freesm Launcher for Minecraft.
Recently, AAA publishers have been so toxic that their employees suffer greatly and their released games have alpha-level bugs. They’ve become lazy, forcing always-online components and relying on post-release updates to actually finish the product or add more monetisation. These issues have started to appear on console releases too.
I’d highly recommend Linux (Mint with Cinnamon or Gnome) for a host of reasons, but it’s up to you - just know that Linux is often just as plug-&-play as Windows 10.
Regarding games with anticheat, most are designed for Windows so if you do go Linux, the games will be sandboxed pretty much and even if anticheat is unavoidable it can’t install to the primary OS. Regarding pirated games in the event you get malware from a bad source, I don’t know how bad it’d get so I’d recommend just buying the games again (GOG or Steam really is inexpensive, just wait for seasonal sales and wishlist everything you want).
Finally, the last good time to buy components was September last year. RAM is absolutely required to run a PC and its market price is thoroughly raped by generative AI server farms. You could build with whatever motherboard last supported DDR4 and save some money there, but GPUs are still 50% higher (relative to performance) than they were before crypto farms, SSDs are 100% higher than they should be, CPUs have spiked by 10% and rumour has it the corporations are going to suck up HDDs next, destroying possibly the cheapest component in computing. If you value value, keep this in mind.
I’ve been playing on linux for almost five years now with steam through proton. It’s a compatibility thingy majigger that makes it so I can basically play any game I want through steam as long as it doesn’t have anti-cheat, which to me is a plus because I think that shit is downright disgusting.
PC is the most versatile, and IMO, the most future proof. Sure you can get a console that will be good for maybe five or six years, but my current system is almost 13 years old now (an old dell work station with a hole cut in the door so 1070Ti can fit inside) and it still works fine enough with most games. I couldn’t play Baldur’s Gate III or some of the newer games though. It’s basically a potato in that regard; however, it’s more than good enough for my favourite games like Deep Rock Galactic, Deadlock, Satisfactory, Slime Rancher 1 & 2, Factorio and whole bunch more.
An issue right now with PC is that the “AI” fad is increasing the cost of components like RAM and hard drives. So if you want to to get a PC I’d suggest waiting a couple of years or until the AI bubble pops, which should be a good show to watch at least. Valve is also releasing their own PC (the Steam Machine) soon, maybe. I think you’d be interested in that if the AI price hikes didn’t fuck their plans up too much.
Many of the larger studios that you’ve probably heard of were bought out by venture capitalists that then proceed to fuck shit up because, idk, efficiency I guess. This leads to the incomplete releases you often hear about. Anyway, there are a lot of smaller studios that are amazing; like Ghost Ship Games (Deep Rock Galactic) and Coffee Stain Studios (Satisfactory, Goat Simulator). Not to mention the probably thousands of solo devs that make games just because they want too (From Glory to Goo, Townscaper, Tiny Glade, Stardew Valley …).
It’s not just the flashy games you read about, there’s so many other games you can play that are often better in almost every aspect then the games from the larger studios, other than graphics for the most part. I really don’t like consoles because they are limited in what they can play, and often only last five to six years before games stop releasing on them and you have to buy an entire new system. Just my take tho. Again, look into Valves Steam Machine, it should be the best of both worlds. AFAICT prices look to be ~$950 - $1000.
If you want to pirate games check out Linux Crack Tips. I always forget how to link to communities… :s
Hey!
If you like retro games, there’s Batocera.linux for example. It comes with a lot of games out of the box, but you can add more ROMs of course. It’s just a bit of a process to get all the artwork for them to make things look nice and all.
Batocera.linux is an open-source and completely free retro-gaming distribution that can be copied to a USB stick or an SD card with the aim of turning any computer/nano computer into a gaming console during a game or permanently. Batocera.linux does not require any modification on your computer. Note that you must own the games you play in order to comply with the law.
I also find Wrath Of The Gods quite fun.
