I’m slightly-centrist left and very very much believe that universal healthcare is the only way to do healthcare well.
I don’t think you’ll find many centrists believing what is states there unless it’s about the US because in the US, centrists is just racist Nazi’s undercover.
The US always has been an extremely hard line right for decades. Even “leftist” politicians there have opinions that may make a right wing politician in Europe blush l, so what can you expect from “US centrists” except more right wing bullshit?
Don’t conflate UD centrists with centrists elsewhere, they’re not the same
Im Australian, I conflate all centrists as the same. There is no middle ground to be had afaic.
You either support capitalism or you don’t at this stage. Centrists are right-wing in that regard.
In any system, some people with very expensive treatment options, especially if the treatment would extend life only a few months and/or with poor quality of life, are going to be denied that treatment. As a society, it doesn’t make sense to spend twelve million dollars to keep one bedridden patient still bedridden for another six months, when that money could instead be used to improve quality of life for many people for many years.
I believe the meme is about denying highly cost effective care like insulin or basic doctor visits, which is cruel without any redeeming aspects. Just wanting the conversation to include that, while the US has drawn the line in a ridiculous place, there does need to be a line drawn sonewhere.
Same with food, same with housing, same with any basic necessity and abundant resource.
The system is sick to its very core.
But the people who believe in the dignity of the poor also want me to have dignity for trans people and if some poors have to die for my bigotry so be it. (Insert optional Jesus misquote here)
Another way to put it: do you support the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? And how to better reach its objectives?
Article 25
- Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
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Pretty sad to see that basic human rights are still up for debate.
The irony of a universal healthcare is that its main function is not to pay for the people’s medical bills and giving the govt a negotiating position. But that it forces the govt to regulate a lot of things out of existence in the attempt to save money
Wdym, that’s what a lot of centrists get mad at. think of all the jobs designed to reject healthcare for people, we must keep those around at all costs
I support a healthcare system where the basic right to health and life is not a commercial product but a public good (that means 100% of the process from hospitals to the medical production facilities should be owned by the workers)
Shaun’s the GOAT.
His voice is so unique I can hear his tweet
The deaf will never hear. The blind will never see. You can’t cure stupid. You can’t erase evil.
It’s a fucking miracle that leftist have dragged right and center this far. The problem is that we’ve entered a time where evil are emboldened by an anti-intellectual epidemic. We’re evolving backwards.
We need the center to either wisen up or start giving a damn. It’s not universal healthcare that is at stake. It’s weekends and holidays, child labor, and workers compensation. They constantly walk in that direction because they can. The right is in a cult. The center is distracted.
It’s weekends and holidays, child labor, and workers compensation
Centrists like to think they made all those things happen and their existence is proof that triangulation on every issue works. The history of workers comp is pretty interesting if you havent read it yet:
https://arawc.org/blog/the-interesting-history-of-workers-compensation/
Damn, the pivot from comrad to capitalist hit like a brick wall. The last few paragraph shills about how amazing is.
General start vibe:
In order to recruit crew members, each shipmate was guaranteed payment of pieces of eight for various body parts lost during their dangerous trade. Injuries at sea ranged from 100 pieces of eight for the loss of a finger or eye, 400 for loss of a left leg, 500 for a right leg, and 600 pieces of eight for the loss of a right arm. Since 100 pieces of eight was the equivalent of most colonial American wages in a year, the amount could add up to the equivalent of 6 years of lost salary.
To juxtapose:
For instance, the loss of a thumb in South Dakota entitles any worker to 50 weeks of compensation regardless of his/her disability.
Pirates swabbing the deck got 6 times more for losing a foot than an American today losing a thumb. But this fucking closer:
Texas has one of the nation’s leading economies and continues to draw new businesses and workers from across the nation, and the choice many employers have made of utilizing the innovative injury benefit program has been a win-win scenario for both employers and their employees.
Had to double check the author from the recoil:
Jeff Pettegrew is the Chief Policy Officer of ARAWC, a renowned insurance industry thought leader, risk manager, and CEO for over 35 years specializing in workers’ compensation.
So I just google “ARAWC” and the first thing that pops up is:
The ARAWC (Association for Responsible Alternatives to Workers’ Compensation), a lobbying group financed by almost two dozen major corporations including Walmart, Lowes, Macys and Kohls are working to make it harder for injured workers to obtain lost wages and medical care.
Otherwise, thanks for the cool read.
Centrist here. He is correct. Not gonna elaborate because it’s against the rules, but I will confirm most centrists/right wingers I talk to are either too stupid or careless to acknowledge the fact that they hold this opinion too
edit: Did some more research, looks like universal healthcare does not preclude private healthcare as well. Must just be my shithole home country that did that
