• Rhoeri@lemmy.world
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    It always amuses me when people fall in love with the next “but they’re one of us!” tech companies. You can’t say shit about it without getting destroyed by fanbois, but when they turn out to not be one of us, you’d damn well better keep your “I told you so!” to yourself- because they never let you tell them to begin with.

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    if you’re here to recommend ladybird, tell us why you’re doing advocacy for that trash fire in spite of the well-sourced, ah, downsides pointed out in article and video linked from the OP.

    same for brave. I don’t give a fuck if privacyguides told you it was the goodest browser.

    if you’re here to advocate for ladybird or brave and haven’t read the article in the OP, fuck off. don’t come here pretending to discuss something you haven’t read.

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    21 hours ago

    The era of useful Silicon Valley Non-Profits seems to be fizzling out. I wonder how long Signal is going to hold out…

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    you_were_the_chosen_one.gif

    I jumped ship to Librewolf a year and a half ago (after seeing Mozilla steal people’s data and sell it to advertisers), and I’m pretty fucking thankful for that. For anyone looking to leave Mozilla to rot, I highly recommend it.

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      23 hours ago

      how are the defaults for librewolf? I’m considering switching but I’m hearing mixed things about the defaults occasionally breaking sites. waterfox seems pretty good too, but I don’t see it packaged as frequently as librewolf.

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        The defaults are significantly better than Brave. Hands down Brave has turned to garbage.

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        i’ll go against the grain here: Librewolfs’s defaults are firmly “meh” for me. still an improvement over the “what the fuck” that’s happening in Firefox.

        pros: nixs the annoying Pocket / AI / “suggested” nonsense by default. no annoying extras.

        neutrals: Firefox Sync is off, but one click and a restart to turn back on. reasonable for a non-Mozilla project. no cookies saved by default might be annoying for some, but you can add exceptions right from the URL bar and i only have a dozen or so of those set for various sites. gods, cohost is still in that list…

        cons: ResistFingerprinting is IMHO way overkill and breaks nice things like automatic dark modes just for preserving privacy in the 0.001% of cases where browser fingerprinting matters. same as WebGL being off by default – i just don’t need that kind of protection

        i still recommend it. Disable ResistFingerprinting, enable WebGL, enable Firefox Sync, and decide for yourself if you want auto-clearing cookies or not. i also always enable vertical tabs because my horizontal space is a lot less constricted than my vertical. (it’s a FF feature!)

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        My only difficulty with LibreWolf on Ubuntu was getting it to be the default browser (it didn’t show up in the list of options). Turns out xdg-settings set default-web-browser librewolf.desktop on the command line did the trick.

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        The defaults are pretty strict, but most of the page-breaking stuff can be changed in the LibreWolf settings and each one has a description which usually contains a link to a wiki article detailing why you’d want to change it or think twice before changing it.

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      The least-worst of the Chrome reskins is Vivaldi, which has no AI. It has its own adblocker, but it’s not as good a blocker as FIrefox with uBlock Origin. And Vivaldi’s not open source. But they’re relatively non-evil.

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      I’m doing the same, and I gotta say, I’m really liking the small differences in the UI on both android and desktop.

      The popup menu on Android is way better.

      The customization for the tabs/highlights on desktop are great.

      Subtle differences, but I appreciate the options nonetheless.

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    I used Firefox for largely political reasons (summarized as “Google needs a competitor”), but it was becoming harder and harder to justify. Eventually, I just switched to a Chromium-based browser. I will say that, as an almost-good-enough solution until I wake up from this nightmare to a functioning Servo (🙏🙏🙏) , DNS level ad blocking (using Mullvad’s DNS servers) + uBlock Origin Lite (filtering mode set to “complete”) has been sufficient for me. It even blocks Spotify ads. I think it blocks YouTube ads as well, although I barely watch YouTube on my browser.

    Ungoogled Chromium supports MV2 extensions and seems like a good choice if Firefox becomes unusable or you get fed up. I use Trivalent, a security hardened Chromium-based browser, but it may be tough to install if you aren’t on Secureblue. Also it only supports MV3 extensions.

    this shit is so fucking frustrating, just leave our browsers alone. we want security updates, not an unethically sourced bullshit-and-vulnerability-generator stapled onto the biggest attack surface on our fucking machine

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        why are you holding out for a browser that the OP correctly calls out as being developed by a believer in white replacement conspiracy theories who also vibe codes his browser?

        actually don’t answer that, don’t fucking post here unless you’ve read the article

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    Presumably, if Firefox version N breaks ad-blocking, someone can make a hard fork of version N-1. Security patches, upgrades to OS support and things like new CSS/HTML features can be cherry-picked or reimplemented to it, though Firefox updates in general will not be admitted, as it’s a hard fork (in the way that LibreOffice or MariaDB is). At worst, Firefox will actively make it hard to do this, closing their source or changing their licence to one which prohibits it, requiring any updates to be reimplemented clean-room style, which will slow things down, though if the alternative is actively enshittified, it’s the least-bad option.

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      The good news is it generally isn’t necessary to reverse engineer browser behavior when writing a browser. Since it’s mostly fairly standardized, there’s a decent test suite, and the major browsers are all open source.

      Though this comes with some caveats:

      • There are exceptions like the CSS viewport spec which was reverse engineered from an iphone.
      • There are a lot of specifications because browsers have been around for decades and Chromium keeps implementing stuff, and it can be hard to find enough programmers to write all of them / catch up from a fresh start
      • This is a somewhat unstable situation; if we lose even a single major browser engine it’s easy to imagine Chrome maybe not bothering with standardization and just telling people to read the blog posts and code.
      • Web pages will do nonsense like break themselves if you provide a User-Agent string they don’t like. Mozilla has an ongoing compatibility effort where they sometimes have to override the UA string for specific pages. So less popular browsers are already playing from a disadvantageous position.
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      small typo.

      So guess what Mozilla did? When you update Firefox, tt re-enables the AI! And if you disable the AI again, it re-enables it again next update! Choose correctly, user!

      “tt” should be “it”

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      I’d choose to never use Internet again than use a chromium browser

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      from your profile and post history you appear to be, and I can’t believe I’m typing these words, a pro-Brave anti-Mozilla gimmick account. go the fuck outside.

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      tell us more about how you didn’t read the article or watch the video

      specifically tell us how you missed ladybird’s developer being a fascist who’s already vibe coding the worthless fucking thing

      actually no, maybe just don’t fucking post here

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              uh have you tried xydfgq-blurble browser it’s my home brew fork of chromium and firefox i call it “chromefox” which is also my fursona

              thinking of changing the name to something lighthearted, marketable and non-objectionable like “GNU-Scrotum”

              i am the only maintainer and i keep up with 110% of security issues

              we are not in the android store as the oppressive statists at google said that if i ever switched on this uh “piece of shit” in a built up area theyd cut my nuts off, but

              ignore the FUD about chromefox spilling your bank account and leaking your tastes in hentai and fucking your cat it’s all LIES FILTHY LIES by THAT BITCH ANDREW he is SUCH an asshole

              anyway free software stallman was right peace out