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    While this is a criticism of the US, this article assumes industrial capacity is the only factor for victory. If that was true, then the US should have been victorious in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and other parts of the world.

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      It’s not the only factor obviously, but it would be a key factor in a peer competitor war. Especially so, given that the US is industrially dependent on China as the war showed. If China cut off critical inputs like rare earths, then US industries would grind to a halt overnight. There’s no short term fix for the problem.

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        Yes, I’m stunned by all the fronts they’re positioning themselves on, seemingly to start fighting, yet saying they don’t need NATO and apparently angering all allies except Israel, all after burning through missiles. I pray USA isn’t planning on dropping nukes.

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            I’m not sure sociopaths have forethought of all possible consequences. Shoot, not many normal people can conceive of all possible consequences. I guess we’re about to see!

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            They might not care as much unfortunately, pretty much all of then have doomsday scenario bunkers for when they fuck up the planet much.

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              I imagine that deep down even they realize that their standard of living managing a declining empire will be far better than one where they have to live out the rest of their living like rats in bunkers.

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                Even if they aren’t aware of it, they better also bring an army of totally autonomous humanoid robots to serve them cuz there’s no way the workers they bring with them aren’t just gonna gang up and eat them in like 6 months

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                  this was a pretty hilarious read on the whole thing https://archive.ph/l3Djh

                  This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers — if that technology could be developed in time.

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          My thoughts are, they know everyone else realizes their conventional military is trash, but are still swinging it around because the rest of the world isn’t ready to start defending against nukes. The US it’s at a point where they are robbing someone with a toy gun, but also have some bricks of c4 planted all over the neighborhood, and are saying, "you better take my toy gun seriously or I will blow up this entire neighborhood.

          What’s worse is, many of them actually believe they will survive a nuclear Armageddon. My personal hypothesis is, they want to be able to make it looke like we used nukes in self defense. I really think they expect there to be enough Americans left in the aftermath for them to rule over. And they want to be able to go to these people and say " we had to do it in order to save what we could. You should be grateful. Of we didn’t destroy the world, the evil commonest would have killed all of us. "

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            That’s dark and possible. We hope for the best, I’m not sure how the regular Jane and poor will prepare for the worst, other than coming to terms with the possibility.

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              the regular Jane and poor will prepare

              They won’t. They will die or become part of the mobs of people killing each other for what little is left. That’s the intent. This is what the rich want. They want as many “undesirables” to die as possible they believe they can basically live in a mostly deserted world, In small pockets all to themselves. And either kill off or enslave the rest of us.

              These people are evil. Truly evil.

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        The solution the US will choose is to develop part of the rare earth extraction supply chain in third world countries, like Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia and Chile. They will probably keep the refining process. It will take time for this plan to take off, but negotiations are in process.

        But I’d say that, if US had an edge over other the rest of the world in regards to the military industrial complex, this advantage is likely gone, at least for now.

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          You simply can’t do that overnight. Even the most aggressive diversification scenarios see China controlling around 80% of the market by 2040s. So, there’s no practical solution in the short term, and a lot of the existing weapons got used up over past three years in Ukraine and by Israel. I did a deep dive into the whole rare earths thing recently. https://dialecticaldispatches.substack.com/p/the-bifurcated-market

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            Sorry, I didn’t mean that they will build up the infrastructure to extract and process rare earths overnight. What I mean is that dispute over the control of rare earths will be the next arena of imperialism. This is also why the US is pivoting from Europe and Asia to Latin America.

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      I think industrial capacity is a major factor in a conventional war. The moment it turns into an assymetric war, industrial capacity stops being a factor of much importance