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Oh boy, can’t wait for Youtube Mail and Youtube Maps next
it’ll all end with YouTube Search
I wish this were more implausible, but at this point I’m getting worried.
Youtube is basically their entertainment brand. So that really doesn’t make sense.
People are just resistant to change because the GPM to YTM transition sucked when they released a half baked app
Yeah I guess so. YTM sucked ass when it came out. But now I would say it’s better than Spotify.
Classic google. Add this to the Google app graveyard.
It is both funny and sad that Google has more or less trained me to never use their apps.
At this point, I purposefully don’t use them because I assume they’ll soon be cancelled.
About two weeks ago I thought about this in regards to google podcasts.
“Well this one will probably stick around long enough that I’ll have moved on by the time google shuts it down. They don’t even host the episodes anyway. They source the metadata and audio files from elsewhere. All they really host is my listening history, queue, and subscriptions. Certainly this is less likely to get the axe anytime soon.”
*two weeks later*
It really does suck though. I genuinely like the google podcasts app/website. Best one I’ve found so far that works how I like my apps/services to work.
Man I recently switched from podcast addict after years because podcast addict put an annoying nag about permissions changes in Android, plus I always had issues with the playlist/queuing. Guess I’ll go back to it soon
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I don’t know how anyone on Android uses Spotify. That app is such dogshit.
Also rip forever Google play music
Honestly I think YouTube music is finally at parity with Google music. I’d prefer some of the fluff to go away (e.g. the comments, samples, & podcasts) but overall it’s gotten much better.
Can I upload my entire 600gb+ library to it for free and access it anywhere anytime?
Auto cache? Redownload so it acts as a backup?
I think you know the answer to that. That was a pretty spectacular feature that I never thought was going to last. Regardless of branding. Hopefully you uploaded your music and transferred it over to YouTube music before the deadline.
Yea I think all my music is on there, but the app is such garbage and unnavigable, I bought a 1tb micro SD card and said fuck that shit.
It is not an intuitive app to navigate. I would 100% rather have Google music but YouTube music isn’t as horrible as it used to be. That’s not a ringing endorsement but I’m glad it isn’t still a dumpster fire
Word I might check out out again.
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You must not know many Android users then. Almost all the android users I know (like 90% of them) use spotify. And I think all the apple users I know use it.
I know many Android users who use it and I don’t know why. Apple music and Tidal music is better in every way.
The Spotify app is so bad it’s embarrassing.
So first you say you don’t know any Android users that use Spotify, now you’re saying you know many Android users that use Spotify… so which is it?
Naw dude learn to read. I said I don’t know how people use it. I didnt say I don’t know anyone.
Nice edit, bro.
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Yeh it’s dogshit but so is apple music.
The desktop apps suck but on mobile it’s the best music streaming service there is, imo. It has a few features I‘d like it to add but other services don’t have some key features that are much more important to me
Disagree. I’ve actually come to like YTM better than GPM over the years.
google
one app
does one thing
google
why is this so hard to understand
It’s likely not financially viable to have separate teams for their many products that all have similar features. Consolidating makes more sense because they can actually afford to maintain development.
Honestly, they should just roll YouTube Music into the default YouTube app, as well. And they probably will at some point. It just doesn’t make sense to have these services - which are basically all the same, functionally-speaking - spread out across multiple apps.
Honestly, they should just roll YouTube Music into the default YouTube app, as well.
I don’t think I could disagree more. I use both and listening to music and watching videos are entirely different activities for me and I want the apps to do different things in different ways.
The UI and use case for a video platform and a music app are very, very different
It’s likely not financially viable to have separate teams for their many products that all have similar features.
Clearly Google doesn’t follow that logic because they have numerous competing chat apps. Even Google Maps has chat…
I miss google play music. Never really liked youtube music
GPM was dope, no two ways about it. I was sad when it closed.
But after moving over to YTM and using it for years, I like the change. It lets me stream music, just like GPM. It lets me play local files and put them in playlists just like GPM. And it lets me put more underground music on my playlists that are uploaded to YouTube, unlike GPM.
The UI and everything you interact with is way better than GPM too.
Not trying to be a Google shill, but I actually love YTM. Podcasts coming just combines two apps I used into one.
I 100% understand what you mean. I still have a hard time trusting Google with their services and host my own RSS reader (TT-RSS) and music (Plex & Plexamp), but I do use YTM for finding new music as well as backing up my personal music like I did with GPM. Not a shill either, but YTM is not a bad product.
I never really used their Podcast app as I assumed it would be closed at some point (and here we are) and really enjoy Pocket Casts. If that ever shuts down, I’ll just use GPodder and roll my own hosting for yet another service. I guess in the end, Google has taught me to be self reliant lol
It wasn’t good. Used it a few times and I really didn’t like it.
PocketCasts and AntennaPod are wayy better
Does anyone know why they shut it down? The replacement was worse on every single account. And by such a significant amount too.
2 reasons, but the main one is that they had to get separate individual licenses for songs or something and that was likely minimally cutting into their absolutely insane profits, but with YouTube music it’s still just YouTube so only one is needed… idk that’s what I read on Reddit a couple years ago. The other is that their workplace culture is completely fucked and they push new apps instead of updating the old ones.
I’m not saying they should be like apple but sometimes seeing the killed by google list grow is frustrating when you look back and were an active user of a bunch of the things
I think you underestimate how expensive licensing music is. As an example, the vast majority of Spotify’s revenue goes to paying licensing fees and is most of the reason they’re wildly unprofitable
YouTube music is great, give it a go
i bet they discontinue youtube-music in 2026 by selling it to sony
google discontinued something? shocking
That’s just the Google way… still didn’t get over the RSS reader disaster… Anyways, I tried the app a couple of times: it’s not a great app for listening to podcasts. If you like podcasts, try Antennapod, Pocket Casts or Podcast Addict (and please stay away from Spotify).
In the end: good riddance.
AntennaPod is the best.
Hell yeah, AntennaPod is so good. It’s better better than most paid and ad supported alternatives I’ve tried and the best part it’s FOSS.
Antennapod + Gpoddersync FTW
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One use for RSS feeds is to distribute podcasts to multiple apps. I believe most podcasts apps are just RSS readers combined with an audio player.
Using IFTTT to send starred RSS items to pocket is really useful even still!
I use RSS to help decide if an item is worth reading or not based on the title
Why did you say “stay away from Spotify”?
Because Spotify uses (not their own) podcasts to generate revenue, but doesn’t pay the creators.
Source: trust me bro
You might actually hear a podcast host say that if you listen to enough podcasts. I have heard it in the Bits und so podcast, directly from the host.
Also, Spotify bought their own studio (Gimlet), for that they are obviously paying the creators.
Also, there is this wonderful specialty toy, I think it is called Google. You can search for things and find answers to urgent questions, all by yourself.
So it actually does pay the creators.
It pays the creator if the creator offers pay to view content. So technically, it takes money from the creator’s subscribers.
Every podcast does that.
Also they host many podcasts and have their own advertising service which can insert ads dynamic ads into the podcast from which the Podcaster is profiting too
Sure, a video app makes much more sense for podcast delivery!
Many podcasts have a video component, so it actually does if implemented correctly.
Honestly, podcasts on YouTube are better if you have sponsorblock
They are mimicking Spotify. How they have music and podcasts built into one app.
It’s mainly a music app. Videos can be enabled, but by default it’s off.
YouTube is the video app, not YTM.
Never surprising to hear of yet another Google service shutting down.
Spent a solid hour trying apps to switch to. Found podcast republic which does everything I want with tons of customisation and a one time payment to ditch the ads. Love it.
Been using Podcast Republic forever now. (~7 years)
The developer did so much during the time. It allows you to do so much.
I’ve been using PocketCasts for years but I’ve been thinking about jumping ship. I’m going to give republic a shot. Thanks
I’m grandfathered in with lifetime premium on PocketCasts which makes it difficult to consider jumping ship.
I didn’t even know they have a subscription now, bought the app with reward points probably 5+ years ago
Try Podcast Republic and Podcast Addict, both are awesome.
PA is more for power users.
PR is more for regular users.
Tried both and settled with AntennaPod when there were rumours of Google Podcasts shutting down a few months ago.
I now value more export/import features. I also enjoyed AntennaPod’s queue options more.
Antennapod rocks as well.
I wasn’t able to settle with it for some minor reason I can’t recall, but it was a great app.
Might try it, does it have skip silence, per cast playback speeds and configurable start and ending skips?
Yep, I don’t use all of those features so I had a quick look and yes it has all of those.
Thanks for checking that man you’re the best. I’ll definitely get some podcasts transferred over and try it out after work tonight
Alternative recommendations?
Pocket Casts
I’ve been quite happy with antennapod. Discovery is kind of a pain in the ass, but it’s open source, and management and playback have been solid.
I second all of this. I started using AntennaPod a couple months ago and like it. It handles “chapters” in podcasts better, too. Searching is fiddly though.
PocketCast is also OpenSource. Today I switched over and it’s also pretty good.
I honestly can’t really decide which one I find better. Try them out for yourself.
Biggest issue with pocket casts is it cannot deal with authenticated feeds.
I for example subscribed to Darknet Diaries on Patreon and the bonus episodes do work.
I don’t listen to more premium podcasts. I just hate that you can’t manually update the URL so far.
Also the “time listed” stats on AntennaPod are way superior, but PocketCats syncs between devices and has a web/desktop client.
yea, they did get patreon exclusive feeds working, but any other don’t.
I just don’t like that everything has to go through them.
used to be a big pocketcasts fan, but I dislike being completely dependent on their servers.
AntennaPod on Android and Overcast on iOS have been my go-to options.
For Android: It depends on your needs. For better user experience I’d say PocketCasts. For best customization Podcast Republic, Podcast Addict. AntennaPod was for a while the only open source project, PocketCasts is now open source too. If that matters to you, go with those. I like AntennaPod, specifically the sleep timer. However it has some downsides: discovery / search sucks and it’s hard to access the queue quickly if your phone uses gesture navigation.
For iOS: pocket casts, overcast
hard to access the queue quickly if your phone uses gesture navigation
Recently learned you can disable just the left back gesture. Amazing quality-of-life improvement.
Podcast Addict
Try Antennapod
Antenna pod.
@binarybomb @fne8w2ah A long time ago I used Pocketcasts which is very good but not open source.
FOSS options are AntennaPod or Podverse depending on your needs.
AntennaPod is very popular but Podverse is newer and rapidly developing and it includes a great web player. I’m using Podverse currently, which works with or without an account.
You could also use any RSS reader, and just use Podverse to search and find podcast feeds to subscribe to.
I like Podbean.
PodcastGuru. Sounds cheesy, but I really like it.
Goad I never jumped onboard.
Podcast Addict for the win
In my case Pocket Casts, but yes.
Another killedbygoogle
Such a bad idea. Podcasts seek forward and interface actually worked. Zero chance the migration to YouTube is smooth.
YTM interface is great. I don’t know if you’ve tried it, but YTM is different from the standard YouTube app.
I use YTM exclusively for music streaming. The interface has been getting worse over time, but the podcasts integration is pure dogshit and they should be embarrassed. Basically it’s a subscription to a youtube channel in the back-end and they might add RSS support some day in the far future. Their only focus now is on allowing creators to add an RSS feed for ingestion, not for users to do the same.
This is a moronic idea, and Google is ruining one of their only good app experiences.
What’s gotten worse? I’ve been using the app since GPM closed and have only noticed minor improvements.
Navigating any playlists you created now requires clicking on the library at the bottom, then playlist at them top. I’m also a GPM refugee and the YouTube music app is a shit choice for podcasts.
