Source: https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/luigi-mangione-ny-court-hearing
Mangione’s defense had argued the terror-related charges should be tossed because crimes of terrorism as defined in New York state legislation refer to attacks on multiple civilians, not a shooting of a single individual.
“While the People place great emphasis on defendant’s ‘ideological’ motive, there is no indication in the statute that a murder committed for ideological reasons (in this case, the defendant’s apparent desire to draw attention to what he perceived as inequities or greed within the American health care system), fits within the definition of terrorism without establishing the necessary element of an in tent to intimidate or coerce,” Judge Gregory Carro wrote in his decision Tuesday.
Hell yeah.
The Feds are really pooching this investigation. Either they sent in scrubs to run this case or he really is the wrong guy. Ffs, they claimed to have a manifesto from the shooter. “Terrorism” charges should be comically easy to stick.
The jude said that a murder for ideological reasons does not, in itself, constitute terrorism. A manifesto is about ideology, so having one is not an automatic terrorism charge.
murder for ideological reasons does not, in itself, constitute terrorism
Murder to intimate or affect a change in behavior of a large group would be. But there should be evidence to this effect, which the police claimed they had.
A manifesto is about ideology
A manifesto is just a statement of intent. What it contains can vary substantially by author. But, critically, you need to prove the person committing the crime produced the document.
I wonder if they failed to do this and got the document tossed. At that point, you’re coasting on the suspect’s social media history and hoping the judge gets Bad Vibes of casual comments.
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The judge is likely going to get dragged for not going along with the fiasco. You know its just a matter of time before Eric Adams or Andrew Cuomo or the Cheeto Himself weighs in on how unfair and far-left the SDNY has become.
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Judges operate on their own plane mostly as the thrid branch.
Tell that to Clarence Thomas and his gifted $250k RV. Or any lower court judge gunning for appointment to a higher seat.
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Most all of their competent lawyers quit or got fired.
I know we joke about “I was white water rafting with Luigi on the snake river during the time of the murder” on here a lot. And it’s true. We were white water rafting.
It was a big raft, many people
I wasn’t white water rafting with Luigi that day. I did see his raft go by while I was enjoying a lovely picnic though.
Well duh, it’s because he didn’t shoot no one.
And I keep telling you I saw that video, and ain’t no one shot that guy. And no one saw nothing cause there was nothing to see. He died of pre-existing conditions jeez.
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Prosecution tried to nail him with the terrorism charge because that’s about the only way to score a death penalty in New York state. Judge called bullshit. Nothing much more about it than to say thank god for some judicial sanity.
No shit
