In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.

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      No. She said her policies didn’t differ from biden’s. biden did nothing to pressure netanyahu to stop the genocide.

      Crab, we’ve been over this before, EVERY MONTH from becoming the candidate to the election Harris was advocating for an immediate cease fire, the release of hostages, and a two-state solution. Over, and over again.

      Polar opposite of Trumps “sweep them out and take over.”

      July: https://www.the-independent.com/tv/news/kamala-harris-says-two-state-solution-is-the-only-path-after-meeting-with-netanyahu-b2586161.html

      August: https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/23/politics/gaza-israel-harris-convention-speech/index.html

      September: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-harris-says-two-state-solution-end-of-israel-hamas-war-is-crucial

      October: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/harris-dodges-direct-question-on-palestinian-deaths-calls-for-2-state-solution-during-cnn-town-hall/3372480

      Could she PERSONALLY negotiate it as VP? No, the VP has no real power unless the Senate is stuck on a 50/50 vote.

      Could she PERSONALLY negotiate it as a candidate for President? No, US civilians are blocked from engaging in diplomatic action.

      So a) not a function of her job, b) not a function of her candidacy.

      ALL she could do was talk about what she would do if elected 1) Immediate cease fire, 2) Hostage release, 3) Two-State solution. July, August, September, October.

      The “BUH BUH GENOCIDE!!!” crowd completely ignored what she was saying because they didn’t want to hear it, they are so crawled up inside their own assholes they can’t hear anything.

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          Harris is not Biden. Again, read her statements, month after month, after month. July, August, September, October.

          She was far more likely to treat Netanyahu as the dishonest broker that he is. Biden was blinded by the history of Israel, Harris did not have that same handicap.

          HER handicap was not being able to publicly diverge from Biden policy, she should have, but couldn’t afford to alienate the Biden machine.

          https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5191087-harris-trump-biden-harris/

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            She was far more likely to treat Netanyahu as the dishonest broker that he is.

            So she publicly stated that Israel should stop, would fight to stop it more than Biden, and was pro-Palestine.

            Right?

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                She said she wanted a two state solution.

                She did fuck all to work towards it. The “two state solution” is a trope to enable Israel and has been long since before the genocide. It is not unique to the US. We hear it in Germany all the time followed by crickets when asked what the government wants to do, to actually move towards it. Fact is Harris denied an advocacy group for Palestinian rights to even speak at the DNC event, while Zionist lobby groups were welcomed to speak. It shows that the “two state solution” of Harris means to not even let Palestinians or people advocating for their rights speak, while amplifying Israeli propaganda.

                Anyone who is serious about a two state solution would amplify Palestinian voices and provide the means to establish a Palestinian state while gutting Israels abilities to sabotage that, first of all by cutting all military and financial aid and enacting an arms and dual use embargo.

                Harris has been lying the same lies like the US and other western countries governments have been lying for decades now. It is as obvious as the guys with the clowns mask and duffel bags entering a jewelry store not going to be there to make balloon animals.

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                  She did fuck all to work towards it.

                  Again, the VP HAS NO REAL POWER. The only role the VP has that has any effect whatsoever is when the Senate is stalled at a 50/50 tie. Other than that, the role is largely ceremonial.

                  So going into the election you had 2 candidates:

                  1. Who argued repeatedly for a cease fire, hostage release and two state solution for 4 consecutive months.

                  2. Who argued that the only thing Israel was doing wrong was not killing people fast enough.

                  We elected candidate #2.

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                    When she was presidential candidate she could have allowed people speaking about Palestine at the DNC event. She chose against it. It is that low of a bar she chose to ran into instead of stepping over it. Not even letting people speak about the atrocities that are committed. Not even letting them say that Palestinians are also humans who deserve to life and that the US should not aid in annihilating them.

                    Also when she became presidential candidate she could have said she will do things different form Biden, instead of emphasizing that she will do more of the same. She could have told the DNC to stop arming Israel immediately and demand a full ceasefire and access for humanitarian aid. This would also have been nothing more than demanding that the US administration should uphold the law of the US, which prohibits arming people attacking and interfering with US aid. She could have threatened to step down, saying she would not be the face of more atrocities.

                    She didn’t do any of that. She chose to repeat the same tired rhetoric while ensuring that not only the genocide machine stays well oiled, but the propaganda machine in the US too.

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                  The people in charge are the Israelis and they absolutely need their asses hauled up before a war crimes tribunal in the Hague.

                  Blame the correct people. Israel isn’t using US sniper bullets to kill kids, they have plenty of their own.

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              “No no trust us, I’m against Israel’s genocide, I’m just not gonna use any influence to stop it, I’m not going to make it part of my campaign, I’m going to tell people protesting the genocide to shut up and that I’m speaking. I am clearly anti-genocide, just let me keep with Biden’s pro-genocide polices.”

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              Whether you “believe” it or not is irrelevant. It was her position as stated publicly multiple times. That problem is yours, not hers.

              In the end though, the desire to “save” Gaza will result in the extermination of Gaza because you simply wouldn’t listen. Good jorb!

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      Voting doesn’t mean I support genocide.

      I guess I support school shootings too? Guess I suppose privatized healthcare as well.

      You’re fuckin reaching.

      I would be too if I assisted Trump regaining power