Originally Posted By u/Particular_Log_3594 At 2025-03-23 11:53:01 AM | Source


  • Sibshops@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    This is why democrats lost. They don’t care what their base wants.

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      Democrats absolutely do care what their base wants, unlike the Republicans, but yes this sort of talk and action are why the DNC lost. Being the lesser evil very unfortunately wasn’t enough.

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          Child poverty fell by half under Biden, there was also the massive Bipartisan Infrastructure Investment, there was the largest ever investment into preventing climate change at 369 Billion USD, he attempted three times to cancel all college student debts unfortunately only managing to cancel a few tens of billions and instead creating the SAVE plans which lowered monthly payments down to $0 for many or greatly reducing payments for those over the income thresholds, protected gay marriages, etc.

          And a shitload of other stuff that nobody talks about because BoTH siDeS BaD. 🤡

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            Child poverty fell by half under Biden, t

            Tax credit expired and it went back up

            Bipartisan Infrastructure Investment,

            State aid to corporations

            there was the largest ever investment into preventing climate change at 369 Billion USD

            ???

            he attempted three times to cancel all college student debts unfortunately only managing to cancel a few tens of billions and instead creating the SAVE plans which lowered monthly payments down to $0 for many or greatly reducing payments for those over the income threshold

            Congress has the authority to tax and spend… I am happy that he helped a few people tho cheers.

            protected gay marriages,

            ???

            Bottom line these are limp dick DNC talking points.

            Go tell your komissar, they will lose the next election unless they start respecting ALL working people

      • normalexit@lemmy.world
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        I think I’m their base. I don’t want genocide. I do want everyone to be happy and healthy and educated with healthcare and clean air. People should be able to afford things without working themselves to death.

        I do not feel represented.

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          Then maybe you should read the vote counts on most of the important legislation passed in the last 3 decades? Because I assure you that you absolutely are represented.

          The worst score the DNC would have with your list would be handling Israel and Gaza but our guy was swearing at Netanyahu over the phone, building a pier to distribute aid, and withholding weapons shipments. The new guy, who replaced our guy, has bragged about fulfilling the delayed shipments, is backing a full and complete ethnic cleansing of Gaza.

          So, I mean, hands down no competition. Remove Republicans at all costs. ALL COSTS.

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          It doesn’t help that Schumer’s term goes on until 2029 so the only way to primary him is to issue a recall. It’s going to be a rough decade.

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              The political landscape changed a lot faster than he did. He used to be a guy who could get people from both sides to cooperate to pass legislation, but since 2016 things have become such that cooperating with the conservatives is sometimes literally criminal.

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          Maybe, but the fear prevents them from expressing as much; they regularly change their positions and messaging to match whatever the rabid hogs that make up the core of their base are baying for.

          Meanwhile democrats see it as a virtue to stand up to their base. West Wing has done irreparable damage to their brains.

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        that because republicans will stop voting for them in a hearbeat; while democrats will also vote blue no matter who … and what.

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          Dems literally just lost because their base didn’t show up what are you talking about?

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            they lost the presidential election, we still have mostly the same dems as before

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              we still have mostly the same dems as before

              What does that have to do with Dems always voting blue when they clearly didn’t? To remind you what your point was since you seem to have forgotten:

              democrats will also vote blue no matter who … and what.

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                it’s simple: they either vote blue or they don’t vote

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                  Yes and not voting blue is the antithesis of:

                  vot[ing] blue no matter who

                  But also, Republicans vote Red or don’t vote. It’s in the name. You keep making meaningless points.

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      Apparently ‘embrace patriotism’ an ‘removing too left wing elements’ is what they base want.
      That’s their plan.

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        Exactly, this is why Chuck and Jefferies are making these plays while AOC is literally campaigning with an Independent candidate.

        This is why Marshals weren’t sent after Trump

        This is why no Cases against election tampering were brought up. And no recount was called.

        This is why Korne, these ridiculous illegal deportations, and near complete obliteration of the federal government is allowed.

        Because Kamala could not have gotten away with letting Israel go hog wild like this. Corpo Dems can save face by saying that was Trump!

        But Schumer is an idiot and he basically admitted that what Netanyahu is doing is what the Corpo Dems wanted. Between his goofy ass book tour and his “My job is to make sure the DNC stays pro-Isreal” it’s all laid out in the open.

        He’s hoping the strangle hold idea that “we can’t make or split the party” will keep the party together and behind his leadership. But if AOC said tomorrow that she was starting a new party because that DNC leadership will no longer oppose Trump and laid out proofs. I’d jump ship immediately. I’m hoping she and other get enough momentum that the party can fracture. Because that is the only way to get the country back, a complete rejection of Corpos.

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          i think the Ds were banking on letting GOP be the lightning rod for the cause/damage they do, and come in and save the day. its backfiring.

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            The amount of people that are going to starve and die as a result of this will be unforgettable. If this was the Ds plan which it seems to have been it just further proves that these ancient fucks don’t understand social media or technology in general.

            20 years ago if police raided my home and sent me to another country illegally it would take weeks before an article was created telling my story if that. And even longer before randoms found out about it. Nowadays I can send texts and social media posts while they’re busting down my door with video clips. Multiply that by millions.

            We aren’t going to forget the seniors that Musk has erroneously labeled as dead even though they’re alive completely screwing them because we can see it happening in real time.

            We’re not going to forget the hundreds of people human trafficked to El Salvador because we have a list of names before the planes even landed.

            We’re not going to forget the Palestinian genocide and human trafficking. We’re certainly not going to forget that Israeli soldiers have been told to sexually assault literally everyone they capture.

            We’re not going to forget Cucklefuck Schumer and the DNC whining about being useless when Mitch has done more with less.

            If senior Dems think they’re going to look like heroes they’re so out of touch with reality that they’d think a guillotine is a crown.

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          This is why Marshals weren’t sent after Trump

          Before Oct 7th, thinking was Trump would be best opponent to prop up. We’d have a better democracy if he was in military prison/trials he couldn’t indefinitely delay, or he had fallen out of a window.

          no Cases against election tampering were brought up. And no recount was called.

          Big evidence of DNC being pro Trump, or not enough zionist funding against election rigging.

          illegal deportations, and near complete obliteration of the federal government is allowed.

          Not sure I see the link to Israel there. CIA propaganda defunding would be neutral. Foreign policy abuses are likely designed to control genocide tolerance. All colonies have distanced further from Russia and China. Peace against Russia, has explicitly cited “meeting point victories” for controlling Iran.

          Because that is the only way to get the country back, a complete rejection of Corpos.

          US elections require massive money. Actual “only way out” is to declare Zionism a hate group, and invalidate citizenship/office of any politician supporting zionism, and zero out wealth of any donors/media supporting them. It is only path to neutralize money that is used to brainwash us.

          • Rymrgand's Daughter @lemmy.world
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            The link to the destruction of our government is hoping that Americans stop paying attention to Israel at all. “Who cares what’s happening over there look here!” only works if there’s no Internet and no way to nationally distribute information that isn’t Corpo controlled.

            It did require insane money but I think we are able to get around that because there are too many communication channels. Their only hope is to tire us out when it comes to pushing our messages and shadow banning. I definitely think that labeling Zionists as a hate group and a straight up terrorist organization is definitely the way forward. I think the same about Maga tbfh.

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          Because Kamala could not have gotten away with letting Israel go hog wild like this.

          We should have ruined her day by electing her president. We let her lose, and now she’s laughing at us. We played right into her trap.

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            We literally tried, and if the election tampering handed her the loss we did. That’s why she didn’t fight it at all. She’d have been fucked having to hold back Netanyahu for four more years

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        You can’t even become a candidate if you haven’t bowed down on that AIPAC stage pledging allegiance and unconditional support.

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          Biden/Harris wasn’t willing to shut down free speech at universities, with deportations, and funding threats. Schumer probably wanted Kent State.

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            Biden/Harris wasn’t willing to shut down free speech at universities

            The selective memory again.
            He had plenty of protesters arrested facing serious exaggerated charges.
            Let protest encampments be dismantled and students violently beaten by his heavily armed police forces and even fanatic zionists that could do what they wanted without any objection from the complicit regime.
            All of these dems are 100% genocide collaborators and participants, if not traitors by harming their own citizens for the benefit of an even more horrible regime.

            And he was certainly going to deport Palestinians.
            He simply postponed it under prsessure, since they would’ve been dropped in the middle of a genocide.

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              Let protest encampments be dismantled and students violently beaten by his heavily armed police forces and even fanatic zionists that could do what they wanted without any objection from the complicit regime.

              ADL and zionist hedge fund managers complained that it wasn’t enough, and I don’t think it was federal law enforcement doing the beatings. Proud Boys showed up in anti-protests protected by cops.

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                ADL and zionist hedge fund managers complained that it wasn’t enough
                Nothing is enough for these freaks.

                And US regime cops certainly beat protesters.
                I forgot to mention the Proud Boys indeed, but certainly zionists, some indentified as part of the IDF.