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nobody doubted that the worst of reddit would take over after we left
Good. Let them drive away all other people and let it become a miserable site for miserable people
For $8 a month.
That’s the idea… It’s a protest of a different kind. Still makes the point about moderation needed by people who do it for free.
I demodded myself from shittyadvice before I destroyed my account, but prior to that I posted my idea for what SA should do. I’m convinced that sub exists to cordon off all the trolls so they don’t ruin the rest of Reddit but giving shitty advice elsewhere. My plan was just lock the sub but tell everybody in there to spread the love and Make Reddit Shitty Again, aka MRSA. We’d spread like an incurable disease.
I was going to make a comment about how I confused “SA” for Something Awful, but as I continued to read I saw it was still an apt analogy…
Reddit is the new Parler
Have always been
At least it’s not Gab.
This is exactly what happened to DIGG* and what’s currently happening to twitter.
Conservatives get beaten down by the vast majority of users and get a chip on their shoulder. Then as the site starts to die and the users move elsewhere conservatives jump on the sinking ship and declare their the new captain. They start drilling holes in the sinking ship cause theres nkthing else to do, and eventually realize the echo chamber sucks and then move on to the other social networks that everyone else went to, and the process repeats.
I hope with federation that the cycle doesn’t repeat but we’ll see.
- DIGG made their big DIGG 4.0 change to overhaul the algorithm because it was being gamed and brigaded by members of conservative forums at the time. It just so happened they did it with a user interface overhaul. For a while, after most everyone moved to reddit, the top posts were mostly conservative stuff.
Makes sense. I caught a bit of late Slashdot then went RSS to news sources for a while, then Reddit. This reminds me that I miss the Slashdot comment labels. A FOSS platform like Lemmy could be a place to experiment with it.
That’s what happened to me back in the day. Being young and naive, definitely picked up some things I had to undo and look back with cringe.
They’re doing the same thing that Republicans in Congress are doing/proposing: gerrymandering and raising the voting age. Conservatism is at odds with democracy.
Then as the site starts to die and the users move elsewhere conservatives jump on the sinking ship and declare their the new captain. They start drilling holes in the sinking ship cause theres nkthing else to do,
This is a really clever metaphor. Someone with the skills needs to draw it in the style of a political cartoon from the 1910-20s.
(Also, I saw a great quote somewhere about how conservatives destroy things because they don’t have the capacity to build. Your “drilling holes” reminded me of that.)
People are shitting on this but have no problem with r/interestingasfuck and r/perfectlycutscreams doing the exact same thing
Hey, you don’t see me complaining they stay there and don’t migrate to Lemmy. I’m pretty fine with that.
I realized that Lemmy being slightly more difficult to get started would mean that the user base will be smaller, but fewer low-effort people would make the switch, so it’s really a plus.
I disagree. Us more tech-savvy people will come across, sure. But most people aren’t. And they have hobbies and jobs too, and want a place to gather online for that.
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Same, but I figure I can check in once in a while on the few subreddits that I’m interested in. Some of the subreddits also have a presens on discord, so that could also be an option.
There are DIY communities on the Solarpunk and Beehaw instances that I am subscribed to. Looking good so far!
And that’s fine. They will find their place. I’ll take a smaller community of tech savvy and people willing to learn over a large community of toxic argumentative people. If you’re not willing to learn something new it can be a reflection on how well you’ll get along with other people. I don’t care if someone is religious or what their political beliefs are but I am not interested in reading about how trans people need to be executed or how women should not have rights. I don’t care to open my notifications and see some psycho’s message saying I’m not doing my duty and God will punish me for not being interested in having kids. Many of these people go out of their way to verbally assault and threaten, triggered by something as simple as gay people exosting. It’s exhausting. So I do hope that Lemmy doesn’t become reddit. I hope it filters the best of what we had at reddit regardless of where they’re from and who they are, I enjoy discussions and conversation and points of view. I don’t want to argue with someone who believes mixed race couples should be illegal.
I managed to figure out Lemmy, and I’m not tech savvy at all.
Its not rocket surgery. It only seems complicated because it is new. Once you get past the sign up phase and figure out how to find Communities it is easy-peasy.
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You are in a very, very small minority there
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I agree 👍
I see this as an absolute win!
What if, and hear me out on this, you go and start posting a bunch of ai images of trump sucking Putin off. Just a thought.
I’d have to go back to spez’s teat to do that. I’m no fooking kneeler
/r/freefolk is leaking.
the entirety of reddit is leaking mate
Good habits start now. Link to equivalent Lemmy communities (equivalemmys? sublemmys? what’s the plural of Lemmy anyway?) as they come up:
https://lemmy.world/c/freefolk exists.
what’s the plural of Lemmy anyway?
Lemmings
Just an FYI, I think linking communities like this: [freefolk](/c/freefolk@lemmy.world) allows every user to click it and view the community from their instance, instead of actually moving to the remote instance where they’re not logged in :)
what’s the plural of Lemmy anyway?
Lemmi, obviously
Lemmae?
Kilmisters, duh
Beehaw has (tentatively, among at least some of us) decided that beehaw ‘sublemmys’ are hives, or possibly yeehives. We’re workshopping it.
Idk for everyone else though :P
Edit: we’re all clearly lemmings.
And that’s a good thing!
absolutely!
This is a fine idea if a ever saw one.
Oh yes, please. Someone please create some of those horrific images, and I’ll try to post them there,
Someone throw a padlock on that group to keep them in Reddit.
Please!
I’m all for freedom of speech, but I’m really irked by the lengths people go to just to be offensive.
r/conservative is also not a place for free speech. They ban people for asking questions.
I was banned for “promoting the party switch myth” when I pointed out that the Republican Party of the 1860s is not the same as the republican party of 2020.
It’s like an alternative horrifying universe in that subreddit. It kept popping up in my feed and I eventually blocked it but not after letting it ruin my mood way too many times lol. Made me lose faith in humanity…
You can get banned quoting trunp
Well, voat is gone (i think), but Saidit is Right there, mostly empty and waiting for them, hopefully they’ll go there and stay there. i actually saw people suggesting saidit to other people last week, so fingers crossed.
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I don’t understand the mentality behind this. Is it just a case of “They’re doing a thing so we’ll do the opposite”? What exactly is the goal here?
That’s pretty much been the entire conservative movement’s MO for 30 years now.
Reactionary contrarianism is basically the conservative’s signature move.
Opportunism - they just want to profit from the black out to push their own sub. As often, the conservative principles (or in this case rules) are not so important if you can gain any success by ignoring them.
I don’t hate it. I’m sure some truly vile shit will get posted. Might be enough to get them banned off the site lol.
Again? The real nutballs went off to form patriots.win, after they hilariously lost their preferred domain name in an act of negligence (and/or ignorance.) I could see them pulling the same trick again, forming up a Lemmy node that no one else would federate with a 10’ pole.
patriots.win
Good god I’ll be cringing all week from this
undefined> “They’re doing a thing so we’ll do the opposite”
That’s their gameplan most of the time.
I think they hope all the other opinions will go away and they’ll get their favorite thing, an echo chamber.
I do, they’re fucking stupid
Couldn’t have said it better myself!
They don’t understand. So they’re going against the popular movement. Fear is a bitch 🗿
I see you’re not familiar with American conservatives. This is how they operate. They’re just not always so open.
Wow, absolutely nobody in here gets what they’re doing and just wants to shit on “conservatives”. What they’re doing is what the other mods should also be doing - mod strike! Take down the barriers and let Reddit get overrun with bots, spam, and low-effort posts. If every sub did that instead of the weak-ass “dark for two days guise!” Reddit management would fold immediately.
With this two-days-dark plan, management thinks (correctly?) that they can just wait it out and they win. And they’re probably right. No competent strike ever gives a deadline and expects it to work, that’s absurd. The smarter subs have at least said “at least two days, then we’ll reassess” - that’s the better approach, keep it open-ended.
But the best approach is what /r/conservative seems to be doing, which is just put down their tools and walk the fuck away. Reddit management would have literally no response to that approach if it was the approach taken site-wide.
But whatever, keep shitting on the nazis.
Why in the world would we do anything less than shit on the Nazis?
My grandpa did espionage for the US AF back in ww2 against the nazis while he was stationed in Europe. If he were alive to see his political affiliations become the nazi party he would have had a mental break. We need to start putting reruns of bugs bunny against the nazis on TV again. Maybe dust Harrison Ford off one more time for a geriatric final fight against the nazis lol!
United we stand in shitting on the Nazis.
On the Nazis we shit.
United we squat
Oh, I just put mine in a stretchy bag and used it as a sort of poop fueled slingshot kinda. Gotta say, it works great once you get the technique down.
Agreed. I’ll keep shitting on the Nazis.
But seriously, your post makes some strong assumptions with nothing to back them up. For example that depriving advertisers from impressions from a shit ton of users (due to the missing content) and therefore depriving Reddit from that revenue would hurt less than leaving those impressions but attach more garbage content to the ads. If anything, more enshittified platforms like Facebook and garbage media like Fox have proven that advertisers can live with quite a bit of shit around their ads. And so the assertion that this is some 4D chess move on the side of the Nazis doesn’t hold water for me.
The time-limited strike argument is also flimsy. Nothing stops the mod community to do this again next week for longer or even indefinitely. The time limit doesn’t guarantee Reddit that this won’t happen again and for longer. And so I don’t see how that’s less scary than indefinite strike.
The time to do it next would be right before or during the IPO. Mods and users have tipped their hand though. If anyone working at Reddit has even the tiniest bit of foresight, they should see that coming now and have a plan in place to react or preempt it.
r/therewasanattempt is doing similar, on their own terms.
/r/anarchychess did it and only made it like a couple hours lol
Honestly, I don’t care what what’s left of reddit does. I’m done with it and I’m perfectly happy here. I have plenty of ways to get news and feel like it’s better to check reputable sources instead of doomscrolling and skimming post titles. I need to use my brain more…
Reddit would just take the sub for being unmoderated
Except that‘s not what they are doing. They are still going to enforce reddit tos. Bootlickers. That‘s essentially all reddit cares abou anyway.
Damn, I thought they were going out in a blaze of glory weekendgunnit style on the first glance. Self-immolating a sub instead of just returning to the new status quo is more effective than this blackout will ever be.
Lmao homie really said “whatever, keep shitting on the nazis” like it was some kind of gotcha.
We will, and we don’t need your permission.
time to see this advanced conservative humor I keep hearing about.
Internet post-ironic conservatism is the gift that keeps giving. God I love being an American.
A lil worried about their “special surprise.” What could they even do that would be surprising given the abhorrent stuff that already comes out from that sub?
Get some of Trump’s
offspringsminions to prominently join Reddit and post a rant about their daddy in /r/Conservative?That wouldn’t be surprising though, that’s their brand. I was thinking more like if they were planning to stage another January 6th or something.
I’m sure that whatever it is will help Reddit look great to advertizers /s
acting in contrary just for the sake of it -yeah sounds like modern american conservatives alright
Is there a reason why they’re doing this? Blackout’s not even political. They just want to be contrarian to everything.
That’s basically their entire ideology anyway so kinda fits.
Not allowing unfettered corporate greed to ruin things is leftist propaganda!
Sort of. Despite being over a million subs for about a year now (maybe more or less, I forget), they try to push the narrative that they are complete Reddit outcasts and are treated unfavorably compared to other political subs. I wouldn’t be surprised if they see this as their way of becoming the predominant political sub on the site now that Reddit is falling apart.
The entire conservative political philosophy is based on being a martyr. They better be careful, or they’re gonna become the dog that caught the car, just like on Twitter.
I mean, they aren’t treated well by other users, they don’t deserve to be and shouldn’t be. Paradox of tolerance and all that. They have their echo chamber and leaving it means a bad time. They are still treated well by the platform itself.
Yeah, that’s what I meant. They get a lot of well deserved hate, but some people on that sub act like the entire place is shadowbanned by the admins even though they’ve been getting away with blatantly breaking the TOS for years without getting banned.
Exactly. They just get mad because their hate fuelled opinions get shat on.
I assumed the idea was to fill reddit with trash content. A lot of subs didn’t go dark, so flooding the homepage with trash content will pollute the existing experience.
Their posts don’t seem to deviate much from their usual posts. Target achieved, I guess?
Don’t you love it when your normal MO is the hot new thing?
That’ll pull in a lot of new users. Conservatives and chuds will see it and flock there. Wouldn’t surprise me if any of the investors eyeing the IPO were among them.
Going dark fulfills a whole bunch of objectives, filling up with trash is one of them, it’s fewer eyes seeing ads because less content keeping people scrolling, people subbed to subreddits that went dark are getting a stream of messages saying the execs at reddit fucked up and are providing alternatives like discord and Lemmy, and anyone who even dabbled with fediverse relates stuff like mastodon are getting messages and emails capitalizing on the mass Exodus saying hey come to lemmy, we’re like reddit but decentralized.
I doubt their content is making fp
True, but it will make home for people who are subbed.
Pretty sure they figure it’s all the “Leftist Libtard” subs going dark and so, yeah, they’re gonna be congrarian to that. And, at the core, the blackout is about sharing tools to produce a more inclusive community. And that’s the sort of thing /r/conservative is staunchly against. So it makes sense they’d go out of their way to go contrary to that.
Many conservatives are convinced that Reddit is basically a communist website at this point, so anything Reddit approves of MUST be bad
Which is both sad and hilarious. That anyone could be that stupid to actually believe that. And then to realize that this is how poorly people in Western nations are educated.
Well, Reddit the Community. Reddit the Company clearly doesn’t approve of the blackout.
Clown subreddit.
