U.S. officials familiar with the planning said options for “reclaiming” the vital waterway include close cooperation with Panama’s military and, absent that, possible war.

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    People of the US military: look up “illegal orders” and “Nürnberg” as long as you can find those terms.

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    Please remember that all this is noise to hide the great billionaire sacking of america. Smoke screen.

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      Threats to other countries isn’t noise… It doesn’t seem appropriate to hand wave away threats to other people.

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        Feels like they’re trying to overwhelm us with a barrage of shit.

        The Drake v Kendrick rap battle taught us that refuting your opponent point by point leads to failure. You need to hammer your opponent on his weakest point over and over.

        If we focus our efforts on his collapsing of the economy, will we be able to force him to drop the dumb imperialism stuff and focus on defense? I don’t know.

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        Yeah I’m getting really sick of that. Invading another country isn’t just “a distraction”

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    It’s a matter of time before Trump gets us into a war on our own hemisphere, and when he does, he will impose a draft. I wish some “journalist” (there aren’t really any left any more) would ask him about his opinions on forcing a draft.

    I have a 25 year old son, and there is no way I’ll allow him to be dragged off by the government to die in a Trump War whose main objective is to destroy America for Putin, so Trump, Musk and their friends can loot America. There is no way my son will be joining a Trump military for any reason.

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    Panama Canal seize, Greenland, Canada as 51 state… I guess the 750 US foreign military bases are not enough for them anymore. Viva Colonialism.

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      In which case now is a pretty good time for all other nations to start shutting down their US bases and deporting all personnel back to America. We don’t need a forward operating base in our country if there’s the potential it could be used in such a manner.

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        He doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt on this and should not be allowed to say such stupid shit as if he’s just some guest on a right wing podcast. He actually controls the world’s most powerful military and can make an invasion happen tomorrow.

        His threats against allies and sovereign nations should be grounds for impeachment and removal from office before he does more damage do world stability and the reputation of the US.

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        I don’t think people on the global political scale should be given this kind of pass.

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    Can we please just invade the White House and depose Donald? Seems better for America.

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      Exactly. He is the root cause of all of our issues. But going this route will cause a civil war - he still has many die hard supporters who are now unemployed and have too much time on their hands, not to mention the propaganda on social media… who will defend trump until everyone is dead. I can see some of his supporters stepping away if there is a draft. The upside, if there is a civil war Russia won’t be able to help Trump since they’ve been losing at their war for a few years.

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    Imagine sacrificing your youth and life to serve your country… And you are given commands by this orange turd…

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      There is no way my son will be serving in a Trump army, fighting in a Trump war. You know that it will be incompetently managed, with more of an emphasis on making sure lots of government war contracts go to those who have properly kissed his ass and paid bribes/kickbacks, rather than the safe and effective deployment of our troops.

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        So many things these days scream, “I want action, screw results!” It’s almost like as society we don’t understand mid/long term thinking anymore and are just constantly chasing instant gratification while digging deeper and deeper into the hole we’re trying to get out of.

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          The market demands results, all hail capitalism. It’s only burned the house down twice.

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    If this happens the government MUST be overthrown. If your tax dollars are being used to fund the unjustifiable murder of innocent people, you’re just as guilty as the ones doing the shooting. It would be better that we lose millions in a nuclear civil war than become the new Nazis.

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      If your tax dollars are being used to fund the unjustifiable murder of innocent people

      🌏🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀

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    May he choke on his own flayed cock force fed to him… but he’s really quite the idiot. If he hadn’t fired the competent leaders of the military, he could have just asked them to pull the pre-made plans out of the file drawer. I don’t remember if it was at the end of bush’s term, or when Assange released documents, but there was a period where the fact was being talked about on everything from radio stations to the local pubs that the US had ‘just in case’ plans for many of their allies. I would also put money on most countries having vague guidelines and goals drawn up for emergencies where a dickhead in an allied country takes power.

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    The title is wildly over hyping this news. He said to plan multiple strategies, not to gear up for an invasion. Of course the military is gonna plan a war scenario. This is not the frightening headline its made out to be, shock the military plans stupid ways to put boots on the ground, the military LOVES to plan wars. Click baity for sure!

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      I have no idea what you’re saying…

      What is not frightening about planning to start a war? Are you saying that you could take the canal without starting a war? What other way of acquiring it are you thinking of? What other strategies do you think exist? When you ask the military to come up with multiple strategies to accomplish something, you’re really asking them “would we have to put troops on the ground, or could we do this with a bombing campaign? What about the threat of violence and an illegal embargo?”. But if you employ the military in any strategy they come up with, you’re starting a war.

      I mean, I guess we could offer to buy it, but it’s a cornerstone of their economy, we wouldn’t like the price. And Trump doesn’t go in for “bad deals” (paying for things).

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        So I think it is have that unprovoked invasion is even on the list and that is enough to warrant the headline. Even ordering that to be considered is unambiguously bent a bad guy.

        However, another strategy involving the military could conceivably include providing engineering support in exchange for being favored by Panama. Violence isn’t the only thing in scope of the military. So you say they have more than one potential military plan is technically conceivable.

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          Well, while it is possible that the military does provide a nonviolent strategy along with their other ideas, do know that Trump will reject that out of hand. As I mentioned earlier, he’s not interested in “bad deals”, and any deal like this would have to at least be not terrible for Panama, and anything that doesn’t cripple Panama will be “a bad deal”.

          That leaves Trump with only military force, I’m afraid he has no choice, his hands are tied… 🙄

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      While they do report multiple strategies and I’m sure that’s true, the fact that explicitly unprovoked military invasion is even on the table at all deserves every bit of outrage.

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      Click bait, yes, but leave it up to trump to say the quiet part out loud over and over.

      People should be afraid of what’s coming