I would really like to have a real psychological analysis of this behavior.
It’s not like this is the first time, people vote against their interests and against their better knowledge everywhere and all the time. Are they really just that stupid?
I mean it’s not that complicated. Most people struggle, often financially. You have someone promising the world. You have someone who blames the former establishment for your problems and offers simple easy to digest solutions for problems that are much more complicated. All of this is going to sound compelling and frankly he had a number of easy lay ups this electrician race. Honestly the Democrats botched this whole race. It was half Biden who nobody saw as fit and Kamela came in too late, had the weight of any one displeased with Biden’s tenure and let’s face it, was both black and a women, two thighs the US has a historically mixed run with.
Obviously this is a platform of lies but that’s all you need to get in.
I think one big issue, is that it requires confronting the cognitive dissonance of being a sucker. They’d have to accept that they’ve been fooled for so lobg which is a blow to the ego a lot of people can’t handle.
They don’t want to confront the obvious lies, because they’re invested in believing them. They’re caught in phantasms.
And fear. If you get someone to build up enough fear for everything but you then they feel irresponsible not to vote for you. We, the users of a decentralized Linux forum, are not the type of people to fall into this mindset
Yeah, that’s true. There’s a self-selection bias here that makes us more likely to be technically minded and part of a counterculture. That probably gives some of us a bit of a blind spot to the thought processes of the average American.
It’s actually quite very complicated to see through lies.
An example that some people could relate with:
Have a close relative whose social media account started receiving “go out and vote” electoral ads from friends and acquaintances during election season. And those ads hit exactly the right notes that pulled them in. By the end of it, the candidate turned out to be an extremist who planned to do a lot of bad shit that could incidentally achieve those electoral promises. They were exposed early and had to drop out, but my relative was left disappointed and without the will to continue fighting because this one candidate was the only one who even touched what they cared about.
Without proper representation, the first one in gets the vote. Doesn’t matter if they’re lies when a chance is better than no chance.
There’s a lot of reasons. Some got passively sucked into right-wing brainwashing by Fox News and talk radio. Some dove into fascist Internet rabbit holes.
But my guess is most are people who avoid political news and commentary, don’t really know what’s going on, and don’t really care unless there’s an election on, and even then only at the last minute; and they’re most influenced by the last, loudest message they heard before pulling the lever. Those folks stopped paying attention the day after the election, and they aren’t really. paying attention now. If you point out to them that eggs are still expensive, they’ll look back at you in confusion and say, “Are we still talking about that?”
That’s the thing, it’s not tied to a specific nation.
Here in Germany, poor people are voting for a party that wants to abolish minimum wage, unemployment benefits and healthcare. Farmers were protesting last year against a reduction of subsidies - and they supported a party that wants to abolish all of their subsidies.
Look at brexit, Meloni, Geert Wilders, Milei. It’s the same everywhere.
I would really like to have a real psychological analysis of this behavior.
It’s not like this is the first time, people vote against their interests and against their better knowledge everywhere and all the time. Are they really just that stupid?
I mean it’s not that complicated. Most people struggle, often financially. You have someone promising the world. You have someone who blames the former establishment for your problems and offers simple easy to digest solutions for problems that are much more complicated. All of this is going to sound compelling and frankly he had a number of easy lay ups this electrician race. Honestly the Democrats botched this whole race. It was half Biden who nobody saw as fit and Kamela came in too late, had the weight of any one displeased with Biden’s tenure and let’s face it, was both black and a women, two thighs the US has a historically mixed run with.
Obviously this is a platform of lies but that’s all you need to get in.
But it’s also not that complicated to see through his lies. Or any demagogues for that matter.
That’s what I mean by “against better knowledge”. They have to willfully ignore the warning signs and contradictions. And that I don’t understand.
I think one big issue, is that it requires confronting the cognitive dissonance of being a sucker. They’d have to accept that they’ve been fooled for so lobg which is a blow to the ego a lot of people can’t handle.
They don’t want to confront the obvious lies, because they’re invested in believing them. They’re caught in phantasms.
And fear. If you get someone to build up enough fear for everything but you then they feel irresponsible not to vote for you. We, the users of a decentralized Linux forum, are not the type of people to fall into this mindset
Yeah, that’s true. There’s a self-selection bias here that makes us more likely to be technically minded and part of a counterculture. That probably gives some of us a bit of a blind spot to the thought processes of the average American.
It’s actually quite very complicated to see through lies.
An example that some people could relate with:
Have a close relative whose social media account started receiving “go out and vote” electoral ads from friends and acquaintances during election season. And those ads hit exactly the right notes that pulled them in. By the end of it, the candidate turned out to be an extremist who planned to do a lot of bad shit that could incidentally achieve those electoral promises. They were exposed early and had to drop out, but my relative was left disappointed and without the will to continue fighting because this one candidate was the only one who even touched what they cared about.
Without proper representation, the first one in gets the vote. Doesn’t matter if they’re lies when a chance is better than no chance.
There’s a lot of reasons. Some got passively sucked into right-wing brainwashing by Fox News and talk radio. Some dove into fascist Internet rabbit holes.
But my guess is most are people who avoid political news and commentary, don’t really know what’s going on, and don’t really care unless there’s an election on, and even then only at the last minute; and they’re most influenced by the last, loudest message they heard before pulling the lever. Those folks stopped paying attention the day after the election, and they aren’t really. paying attention now. If you point out to them that eggs are still expensive, they’ll look back at you in confusion and say, “Are we still talking about that?”
It’s a national culture. Greed and hate.
That’s the thing, it’s not tied to a specific nation.
Here in Germany, poor people are voting for a party that wants to abolish minimum wage, unemployment benefits and healthcare. Farmers were protesting last year against a reduction of subsidies - and they supported a party that wants to abolish all of their subsidies.
Look at brexit, Meloni, Geert Wilders, Milei. It’s the same everywhere.