This contradicts their own wiki. Type 2 AppImages do use libfuse2, which is the problem.
Flatpak also depends on namespaces which paranoid distros disable and cause issues. Which the person you responded to talked about it and you ignored all together lol
Because it makes absolutely no sense what he said. Even in the github thread you linked it is said that namespaces are enabled by default in the kernel nowadays, and any alternative would be more insecure. With the exception of Ubuntu (which uses Snaps) any major distro either comes with Flatpak already installed or the ability to do so with just 3 commands that do not change anything in the kernel. Like, he got it backwards: you have to disable namespaces (and by doing so break any non-legacy kind of virtualization or sandboxing) by default.
The flatpak runtimes are huge and are another distro in practice, just check the contents of the gnome runtime and you will see it is another distro.
I think our definitions vary. What I was thinking about when hearing “another distro” was stuff like Docker, where another kernel, package manager etc. gets loaded. Do you just talk about size?
flatpak works by using bubblewrap which creates namespaces for the applications you use, essentially the root gets swapped for a fake root, this is how docker, podman, etc work.
EDIT: Also go-appimage which was the first one to use the static runtime in 2022.
So no, they do not need libfuse2 anymore. Stop saying that nonsense, Download the AppImage of Cemu or PCSX2 or Ryujinx and remove libfuse2 and see for yourself…
Even in the github thread you linked it is said that namespaces are enabled by default in the kernel nowadays
Yeah and ubuntu recently fucked it up with namespaces restrictions.
Docker, where another kernel, package manager etc. gets loaded.
Docker doesn’t load another kernel, no idea if it can either, flatpak is pretty much another package manager as well. By your own definition it is another distro.
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The flatpak runtimes are huge and are another distro in practice, just check the contents of the gnome runtime and you will see it is another distro.
Flatpak also depends on namespaces which paranoid distros disable and cause issues. Which the person you responded to talked about it and you ignored all together lol
This contradicts their own wiki. Type 2 AppImages do use libfuse2, which is the problem.
Because it makes absolutely no sense what he said. Even in the github thread you linked it is said that namespaces are enabled by default in the kernel nowadays, and any alternative would be more insecure. With the exception of Ubuntu (which uses Snaps) any major distro either comes with Flatpak already installed or the ability to do so with just 3 commands that do not change anything in the kernel. Like, he got it backwards: you have to disable namespaces (and by doing so break any non-legacy kind of virtualization or sandboxing) by default.
I think our definitions vary. What I was thinking about when hearing “another distro” was stuff like Docker, where another kernel, package manager etc. gets loaded. Do you just talk about size?
flatpak works by using bubblewrap which creates namespaces for the applications you use, essentially the root gets swapped for a fake root, this is how docker, podman, etc work.
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appimagekit is not actively developed anymore. Development moved to AppImage/appimagetool and type2-runtime
EDIT: Also go-appimage which was the first one to use the static runtime in 2022.
So no, they do not need libfuse2 anymore. Stop saying that nonsense, Download the AppImage of Cemu or PCSX2 or Ryujinx and remove libfuse2 and see for yourself…
Yeah and ubuntu recently fucked it up with namespaces restrictions.
Docker doesn’t load another kernel, no idea if it can either, flatpak is pretty much another package manager as well. By your own definition it is another distro.