I found it complicated at first (didn’t know which instance “will last”, where to register to not lose anything when instance admin decide to turn it down), but now it’s going good. We are missing mobile apps though.
What’s are your thoughts about Lemmy/kbin?
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I expect a small boom of loudly announced instances, that will be essentially unmaintained, half of them will silently disappear while taking users identities with them in less than a year, and the rest spliting the federation in half by implementing ideological blacklists, some properly shutting down when the money runs out, or lawsuits and takedown notices starts to flood in.
Let’s hope I’m wrong.
Every party needs a pooper. That’s why we invited you.
Glad to be here! :)
I think its great. Joining remote Communities can be a bit iffy but its okay and the UI is a bit janky but that will improve by time I hope :)
A lot of the communities only seem to have like 50 subscribers. I know a lot of people are exploring options other than Reddit, so I’m confused where everyone is at.
Or maybe I just have weird taste. I am not so interested in shitposting, memes, politics, news; this may be where where everyone is? I’ll give it time to see who trickles in. I like the forum/discussion board style of this as opposed to Mastodon, which is obviously more timeline/feed based, but can feel like a random assortment of things.
On the other hand, since many of the communities are empty, I either do not have interesting topics to yet follow, or am not quite sure where I feel comfortable posting. Somewhat opposite ends of the spectrum, but okay that there is differentiation. Would like to see the fediverse group together (Mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin, whatever else believes in this approach), as alone there may not be power, but together, maybe something impressive can be made.
Imperial theme looming in the background…
What did you sub to on reddit? I’ve found a music-related instance with just a small handful of people, but I’m already enjoying the feel of it. I hope it turns into something slightly larger, but time will tell. I’d suggest looking for communities that are similar to your tastes and stick around for awhile. The party is early, and I think many are too shy to make a move to break the ice. The more active a community seems, the easier it is for newer people to start sharing as well.
Yeah, I’m not going anywhere. I do like the smaller atmosphere in some ways because it’s less Social media heavy. I’m hoping all the recent chaos initiated by whacky rich CEOs signals the doom of the social media framework that has been predominant for the last ~10 yrs. I’m not saying Lemmy is hopeless. I wouldn’t have bothered to join. I think it’s really cool concept.
I wasn’t a very active redditor, tbh. My account was fairly young. Most of my time was on r/leaves, r/cardistry, r/playingcards, r/wood, and probably a few I haven’t remembered. The dust just needs to settle so I can find the proper places here. So far, a lot of the crafting and hobby themed communities are based upon sharing completed works, where I find I’d much rather see content that is instructional, educational, or problem solving. But I think maybe I’m better served by instructables or something in that regard. Probably also YouTube, but I hate video media. 😵💫
There’s maybe an interesting effect similar to domain name hoarding, so I’m going to watch and see how federated system handles important communities being made but not really invested in. I found a music community that was named well, but the only post was the sole moderator peddling their own album, which felt odd. I imagine a different community with the same name but on a different server instance might become more popular in that case and dwarf those. Natural selection of communities will be fun to observe.
Most people are probably just doing something completely unrelated. Remember 99% of people aren’t spending a ton of time online.
I miss downvotes. How do I get a post that I have no interest in to leave my feed?
Other than that, pretty happy.
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I do as well. At least the threads I’ve read through, most of the time reddit was pretty good about downvoting the shit out of a comment that has misinformation or the user is being a dbag (racist, sexist, unnecessarily negative, etc) which was one of my favorite things. I could always count on users to call out those types of comments. It made searching for answers and information so easy and also amusing
Sometimes I would run across a comment that just downvoted purely for their opinion, which was one of the problems it had, but in my opinion (10+ years on reddit), it doesn’t seem nearly as often as people claim
To answer the thread: I like it, I use Jeroba for Android but I’m a long time user of reddit boost which I think is way ahead. I’m not a fan of the website yet but I just think it’s a little confusing
Am I missing something I see a downvote button?
It looks like the lemmy.one instance disables the downvote button. My other account on lemmy.ml has it enabled.
Yep you are right, that’s it. I guess I chose the wrong instance. But this is the advantage of the fediverse. It would be nice to have some table that shows the features in each instance so that we could decide which is the right one for us. I just chose based on the direction I got from lemmy.ml.
I do wonder if it’s entirely disabled or just on the default web interface. The Mlem app still gives me the option to downvote things.
I don’t even necessarily disagree with the sentiment of not having downvotes on a platform, but it seems weird to give that up as one server on a federated network, considering anyone from other instances could presumably still downvote posts on here.
Yeah I could log into lemmy.one on mlem and still downvote, so just removed from UI. But it was enough to make me migrate to lemmy.world.
Beehaw also disables downvotes.
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honestly, once I wrapped my head around the idea of federation (which is very easy given I’ve been active in the P2P torrent field before- federation is but a simple extension of that concept) lemmy has pretty easy to use. It’s simple. The interface is clean and has what I want right in front. I search what I want, deal with a couple minor bugs, and then look at what I want to look at.
My only biggest concern with Lemmy longterm is community fragmentation. As more instances spin up with the user influx, and Lemmy being (currently) limited in horizontal scaling of individual instances, we are going to have cases of tens, maybe even hundreds, of instances all ending up with identical, but separate, communities. Federation of a single instance’s community can only work so well, if we’re expecting users in the millions, and such fragmented communities that may or may not end up federating with one another can artificially make the service feel a lot less active than it really is and/or potentially lead to a lot of content being missed by some users.
If something like multi-reddit comes about in Lemmy, I believe it could solve that issue. Just make a multi-reddit of what is the same community (roughly) over multiple servers. It won’t solve the problem of duplicate posts though. But Reddit had the same issue at times, where multiple subreddits for the same topic existed, although generally it merged down into a single subreddit that was actually useful.
Isn’t this partially intentional? If you don’t like the moderation or community or one instance, you can join a community with the same name on a different instance. I don’t know how it works out in practice, but this should reduce the power of moderators who hang around forever without actually moderating.
There are benefits to it, but it naturally limits maximum community size since it will be a problem if any community significantly outscales the instance it is from. I don’t see an easy way around it, it likely needs a better hosting/funding solution for the servers that support the “big” communities.
Ah - interesting point. So you’re saying scaling limitations could arise if a particular community (akin to a Reddit ‘sub’) gets big enough to outgrow one instance. I wonder if multi-instance federated communities will become a possibility.
Good point, valid concern! I hope existing (real) communities (from existing subreddits or elsewhere) can have leaders pointing users to a specific Feddit community. What would be even more awesome, is if communities could be merged: that way we could ‘repair’ in a sense, fragmentation that happened naturally without losing the users and content that one of the communities already amassed.
I’d like to see new posts to my subscribed communities, without having to go to each one to check. Maybe it’s there and I just haven’t found it. I can’t stand anything on my phone, so this is only referring to the website.
@sin_free_for_00_days is this not the view you’re looking for? https://lemmy.one/home/data_type/Post/listing_type/Subscribed/sort/New/page/1
Ah thanks. I’m an idiot. That is exactly what I was missing for some reason.
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You should be able to do that selecting “subscribed” instead of “local”
Not quite sure yet. I just joined Kbin, but am having trouble getting a handle on how to get my content viewable on other Fediverse instances (although remote content seems to load here just fine)
Lemmy for us was very broken, having many bugs. Kbin works a lot better, even though we had some issues with federation. Overall, the platform itself is quite nice and smaller communities are still fun!
it’s nice :)
I like the idea and general functionality, my biggest concern is what happens if the owner of Lemmy.world gets hit by a bus? Eventually you’d lose your account, all your subs, etc. Same goes for any other instance really. It’s pretty much my only reservation at this point.
Yeah I’d like to see a mechanism to move subs and accounts between instances at will. If that also includes the ability to merge subs it’ll fix 90% of the things everyone is worried about.
There is an open issue for adding a mechanism to move instances, people should go vote for it
Thanks for linking that issue, I’ve voted on it.
I don’t think merging subs is necessary, I would like to see a user based grouping function. That way you can add duplicate communities to one group and see them all while maintaining the benefits of decentralization (primarily redundancy whether through server issues or power hungry mods). Plus it would allow you to group any type of communites you see fit (gaming for multiple gaming subs, sports for multiple teams you follow, etc) without forcing it onto others
This would be especially great if apps like Jerboa allowed automating the grouping process (opt in by user maybe). Some sort of maintained lists of equivalent communities across instances, so the app can easily allow you to subscribe to one community or, in a more Reddity way, a federated set of communities with one tap.
Honestly, Jerboa in alpha is already better than the official reddit app for me. It’s no TPA reddit app, but the number of contributors (in github) has risen by a lot so I’m expecting/hoping development will pick up and it’ll get better fast.
I appreciate the community the most in here. They’ve been very welcoming and minimal, if any, toxicity.
I still haven’t figured out how to look up a community on Jerboa… The desktop site works well enough, though a little slow.
You can search via the hamburger icon in the bottom left, to the right of the home/house.
Found it, thanks!
Its great, but I still want comment sorting before I start to prefer it over webui.
It’s coming in the next update.
For real? You rock devs! 🤟
Using Jerboa too.
Just got started an hour ago and loving it so far, as a boost user I felt right at home.
Lots of people here with the opposite opinion of me, which is that I like the website and not the mobile apps, but overall yeah I’m pretty convinced this format is probably the best poised alternative to replace Reddit for a lot of people. Maybe not everybody, but I am willing to “settle” for quality over quantity ;)
I agree. I too prefer the website as a progressive web app. Though I’m playing with the idea of making a cross platform app highly inspired by relay for reddit. But with my history of procrastination that probably never will get finished.
I’d love to see some of the existing Reddit client apps pivot over to Lemmy.
I’m a long-time user of Reddit is Fun and would love to continue using it!
Same. Much easier to use the progressive web app, and it seems to function better than Mlem.
Once the mobile apps are more mature I’ll probably switch over, but for now the progressive web app works best for me
I’ve just been using the browser or a progressive web app on mobile so far. Seems to work more or less okay.
I’m in the same boat as you. Now that I’ve spent a day on Lemmy & Kbin I feel much better about using both sites and it’s been a fun experience learning something new.
I personally am treating them as betas so I’m willing to forgive them not being as smooth experiences to browse as I’m used to on Reddit. Also because of this, I’m hesitant at this stage to suggest them to a lot of my friends until more kinks are sorted out.
Actually, I think there is a a dedicated instance for the kinks and other NSFW communities lol
Lemmy.ml needs to lose “default” status. I changed servers due to their load and inability to deal with it. They’re practically unusable right now.
They kind of have taken away their default status. They removed lemmy.ml from the list of instances on join-lemmy.org.
They have, but they’re also incredibly slow at adding new instances to that list. I’ve been waiting for lemmy.cafe to be added for a few days now. In the meantime more and more instances are getting overloaded.
Are you adding users soon?
It’s open registration, no need to wait for approval.
Then, it didn’t work for some reason.
I’ve just tried setting up a test user - it went through smoothly :/ Email verification arrived pretty much immediately as well.
Was there any error message you were presented with?
The wheel just turns forever.
It seems to be working well enough. There will be growing pains, but I’m more than willing to live with some bugs & limitations while this all matures and grows. There’s a risk of losing all comment history & whole communities if an instance decided to shut down, but that’s true of centralized sites today. I’ll take the chance on something less centralized that one single asshole corporation can’t screw up.
