• @5714@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      227 days ago

      Hey, you most likely weren’t raised vegan, too. I’d also argue that to oppose suffering, you have to give individuals (i.e./that is people) some sort of worth, but then most killing doesn’t check out.

      • @Mango@lemmy.world
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        127 days ago

        Naw, I know some people with negative worth who still shouldn’t be suffering. In fact, I’m pretty sure they’re suffering from their lack of worth. This is a matter of ethics, not value.

        • @5714@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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          027 days ago

          Those might be suffering from lack of self-worth, but making difference between people’s worth opens up a can of ethical mold. Misanthropy is one thing, but the value of human life is untouchable.

          • @Mango@lemmy.world
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            -127 days ago

            No, that attitude is simple evolutionary pressure to stay alive. The value of a human is no different from the value of a cow ethically, and I’ll eat cow. I don’t want either to suffer. Some people are economically far less valuable than cows.

            • @5714@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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              127 days ago

              Cultural evolution > Social Darwinism

              Do you eat human? From a “farm”? Or shot “in the wild”?

              Right to exist is not touched by effort.

              Do you know what would reduce suffering for both cow and human?

  • @xia
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    126 days ago

    So THAT’S why i only eat meat when i’m in front of my vegan friends!

  • @5714@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    027 days ago

    Hey, you most likely weren’t raised vegan, too. I’d also argue that to oppose suffering, you have to give individuals (i.e./that is people) some sort of worth, but then killing that isn’t self-defense doesn’t check out.

  • @Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    Vegans: Idiots who don’t realize humans are omnivores Despite our antiseptic light switch upbringing the majority of us have no problem with that. There are just a few out there like vegans who think they have the right to dictate to the rest of us. Like religious god botherers. You know like the MAGA’s I see no differences from the hardline stance the magas take and the vegans. Pretty much the same kind of nutjob with differing rhetoric.

    As a result I dismiss all of these very similar nutjobs opinion.