• bashrc@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    For myself, the answer is no. Something lightweight and comparable to spactacles I might wear. Anything heavier which needs to be strapped on I would not use.

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    3 years ago

    I think it needs to be a set of glasses and we need better battery tech before that can really happen. Solid state batteries will be needed since their energy density is so much higher. As a low vision user i can think of an immediate use as a magnification device. Actual magnifiers dont work well for me but software magnification does. Therefore i could magnify my surroundings to read signs, etc.

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    3 years ago

    I thought Apple’s announcement for AR would be something that is actually wearable like glasses as opposed to something so bulky.

    For VR it is cool, but is actual AR glasses that are indistinguishable from normal glasses and don’t require a seal around your eyes making you all sweaty still years off?

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    3 years ago

    I’m wondering if it changes modes when you stand up or walk around? Still, I’m intrigued by this device that lets you essentially strap a MacBook Pro (M2 chip) to your face. Instead of using two physical monitors to edit videos, you can use two (or more) virtual monitors to edit videos. With the AR goggles, now you can edit on your couch or on an airplane or in the bathroom. Very powerful if it works well.

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    I feel like people are super fixated on how dumb it looks and less on it’s uncomfortable and often kinda gross to have something pressed against your skin for extended periods of time.

    I know that Apple sets trends and whatever (like airpods) but i’m not sure they can pull off the “Apple VR-specific breakout pattern face.” I do enjoy the idea of the super rich peeps buying this to sit in their beige houses, headset clogging their pores.

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      3 years ago

      The fashion aspect of AR gets played out a lot especially from tech enthusiasts who, lets face it arent known for their fashion in the first place. Fashion and what is and isnt cool can change rapidly and drastically. In the 80s it was normal for guys to wear colorful fashion featuring short shorts and croptops in the US and this continued through until the early 90s. Then very abruptly that became uncool and it was about baggy clothes, shorts that went down past your knees, and solid more plain colors.

      From the mid 90s to 10s denim based shirts went into fashion, out of fashion, and back again. Leggings went from underwear to something you wear with a long shirt covering butt, to just an alternative to pants. Thick rim glasses came, went, and then came back. People drape giant headphones around their neck these days and those mid sized portable but over ear market is all but dead. Going back further guys used to powder their face and wear tights and heels.

      The look can be a part of it but the issue with ar so far is comfort, and functionality. I dont know if I think apple is going to crack it, but today’s ridiculous can become tomorrows fashion trend and it can happen on a dime. We just need the right influence and the right push

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      3 years ago

      People are also forgetting that you can record stereoscopic video from the headset. Which is cool for the wearer, but potentially creepy for people around them. That’s part of the reason Google Glass failed

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    3 years ago

    Not in it’s current form. If/when the form factor gets to the point where it can fit in my glasses and not be very noticeable, absolutely.

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    I can’t imagine most people will want to wear that headset for more than the 2 hours the battery lasts. I know I haven’t when wearing existing vr headsets. I seem to max out at about 30 minutes.

    I think to get to a consumer version Apple will want to drop all of the glass and metal and go for lighter plastic instead. They need to drop the secondary outward facing screen as well for weight, battery and cost savings.

    If things can get comparable to thicker framed normal glasses, that will be when VR/AR can really become mainstream.

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      3 years ago

      Yeah, the fact that it’s made out of metal is a questionable decision. I can only imagine how heavy that headset is

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    I completely agree with this article. If watching movies in VR was going to be a popular thing, then it would have happened already. It’s been possible for a long time. The reason people don’t do it is because it’s far more convenient to just use a TV. It’s not a matter of visual fidelity, it’s a matter of comfort. (Also it’s a matter of people’s preference to be present in the real world, not isolated in a virtual world.)

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      i think bigscreen vr has a chance for pcvr users.

      i have an index and my only real issue is the resolution and sweet spot isn’t good enough for desktop usage or movies. a smaller sharper set that can sit on my desktop in arms reach is much more attractive

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        3 years ago

        So you’ve tried using AR for productivity? How long do you feel comfortable doing it? Using AR as a PC monitor replacement seems like a promising use for the tech, but I can’t imagine wearing a headset for an entire eight hour work day.

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          I did this with an original HTC Vive back in the day. Developed a full VR game in Unity on my PC, which I called “Nearly Headless Nick” because it didn’t have a monitor attached. The only real problem was the pixel density. I got used to the weight of the headset after a while, especially when reclined (the chair takes a lot of the weight off).

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          I haven’t before. the index isn’t great for AR. I’ve tried using virtual desktop on index.

          the resolution is the biggest thing holding it back. next would be heat and weight.

          I’m hoping that smaller headsets like above are good enough to to work as a monitor replacement.

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      3 years ago

      Yeah, the only real benifit is being able to watch 3D movies, which does look really cool in VR, but then you can’t watch it with other people (unless they have a headset as well) and it takes a while to set up and put on the headset.

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      3 years ago

      It’s like when they kept pushing 3d televisions, except now the glasses are even heavier and less convenient.

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    3 years ago

    Being able to walk around with a computer on your head is the second step in becoming a cyborg. It’s going to happen O.O

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    It’s a cool gadget which I’d love to try but no way would buy. It just doesn’t do anything practical that I can’t already do quicker, easier and more effectively with more traditional devices. it’s far too expensive to justify as a fun gadget.

    The article is right, very few people would want to sit with this on their head in the company of other people. It’s a generally a solo experience.

    I could see it being extremely useful for those with disabilities though and I suppose if anyone can bring mixed reality devices more to the main stream it’s going to be apple

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      For work, I cannot see myself wanting to use one, but for media consumption, it would probably blow everything else out of the water, assuming you’re cool with being fairly isolated in your experience. They sort of teased this, but being able to watch something like Avatar 3 with Pandora as my surrounding sounds so incredibly cool.

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        assuming you’re cool with being fairly isolated in your experience

        I’m sure there are plenty of people who would be cool with that… but for me most of the times that I’m watching a movie it’s with my partner, it would be rare to sit down to watch a whole movie on my own except when i’m traveling

        Although the part of the video where they showed it being used on a plane? I mean… yeah might look weird… but being able to tune out the rest of the enviroment and isolate yourself? That does sound pretty amazing.

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          I did find it a bit funny when they mentioned something along the lines of, “Look how many devices this one device can replace, such as your TV, and monitors, etc,” which is true to a point… If you are the only one who actually uses those things. I have a wife and two children, and a nephew who frequently comes over to watch TV. If we all wanted to sit down and watch a Movie together with this experience, I would have to shell out $18k. 🥴

          • d3Xt3r@beehaw.org
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            On the other hand, for single folks like me it seems worthwhile. I game on a 4K projector that costs $3000, I also used to have a 49" ultrawide monitor which I sold off recently cause I was using my projector more, so at least for me, Apple’s headset could replace a bunch of my costly gadgets - assuming it has video inputs of course (not sure if it does, haven’t seen any mentions of it).

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          I used to use my Google Daydream for that. It let me watch Westworld on a plane without being inappropriate, and it cost me about fifty bucks.

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    3 years ago

    I mean, no.

    I think at most it’s somewhat comparable to sitting down at an old fashioned desktop computer. It’s your primary focus of attention. When you’re not using it, you take it off.

    The example of a dad doing a real-time recording of himself playing with his kids is cringy AF.

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      3 years ago

      I’m pretty sure that was keynote-friendly code for “look how detailed the VR porn is going to be.”

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      Honestly though, if there is one thing Apple is really good at, it’s normalizing things that many might perceive as weird at first. I remember owning a first-gen Pebble, and I had numerous people jest about dorky it was with gems like, “You totally owned a calculator watch didn’t you?” Fast forward a few years, and Apple Watches are everywhere. Wearing a Vision headset at a kids birthday party will probably be on the same level as busting out an iPad to capture a video.

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        Maybe if they’re normal, they’ll still be contextual. Earbuds are totally normal, but unless they’re hearing aids, it would not be socially acceptable to just have your earbuds in all the time at your kid’s birthday party.

        These I think are like earbuds for your eyes. Yes, they can have a mode where you interact with the outside world without removing them, but that’s only for intermittent use. If you and I have a conversation, you’ll likely remove your earbuds.