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You wouldn’t download a chicken tender.
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It’s probably not advertising that they are afraid that you will block but the trackers. They want to know what user is clicking where, how long you are on each page and what you ordered / not ordered.
“Optimal performance”
Never said who benefits from said performance
Probably like 70/30 KFC/user?
Yes they want AS MUCH of your money as fast as possible… but we do want to give them money as fast as possible too.
Disconnect obviously comes at the amount and the margin. They want you to max your credit card on their soda, we want the most satisfying assorted selection with an auto-applied 100% off coupon.
There’s somewhere in the middle there. They can telemetrize their site into it taking just a few taps for you to buy their higher margin combo meals. Their deals, they can hide as best they can without them being impossible to find for those inclined (price-sensitive buyers who open the app with discounts on their mind).
After add-to-cart, it’s in their interests to optimize checkout as best they can… well, with a side of last-minute upsells of course.
Here’s a question: would opt-out first party telemetry be a decent status quo? If you’re not privacy conscious (certainly not enough to pay cash in person), you don’t go to settings to reject trackers… but you still get to benefit from the average user being spied on just a little by internal teams & consultants to improve site/app flows. Don’t think I’m 100% anti-tracker in any case. (I’m definitely medium privacy-conscious as well as price-conscious, so I look for those opt-outs and coupons :) )
Yeah, this warning is pretty clear about that ironically. You aren’t allowed to have secrets, only they are. It’s pretty on the nose, but I guess it could be misunderstood. That’s probably how it got there. The person told to create this wanted to give a warning, but they couldn’t straight up say it.
Are they making money selling food or selling ad spots? Stupid businesses don’t deserve to stay in business.
They are tracking you so they can sell you more chicken. Remarketing.
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Soda is a big money maker actually
I love how you could literally be trying to give a company money and they still want more…
And act like they’re doing youthe favor, to allow you to politely hand them your hard-earned peasant pennies.
They don’t want some of the money. They want all of the money.
If there’s no secrets then there shouldn’t be any problem with ad blocking
I interpret this as a pretty clear “you aren’t allowed to have secrets” message. The only secrets allowed are theirs, not yours. They’re going to track everything you do.
why the fuck they need to show you an ad. you’re already there buying chicken
Why make money if you can make MORE money?
Honestly, does anyone ever read any pop up ad? I immediately have the emotion of hate that there is some annoying window blocking what I am trying to to read. They are lucky I just tune out what the hated window is telling me.
We should elect government people who would regulate the ads on everything. Ads can’t pop up. Ads can’t auto play. Ad can’t be bigger than this.
We are getting to the sucky part of capitalism. Ads on everything.
I always said if I was ever given supreme executive authority, I would outlaw ads and then immediately step down. It would be my one move, and the world would be better for it.
I like how you didn’t limit it to online ads, so you’re talking about outlawing billboards etc. as well.
You are allowed to put a sign on the business’ actual physical location - and that’s it.
But, then, how will I know about that product that I don’t need and will never buy, that is literally on every shelf in every store? (/s, in case that wasn’t obvious)
We’ll transmit that information to you via Neuralink™.
We draw stock internationally via FedEx, with usually at least one shipment arriving per day.
If I have a particularly urgent order for my customer, I will of course be tracking the incoming shipment.
Every. Damn. Time. I visit their website, I get halted in my usual manic pace by their stupid, slow to load pop up. I haven’t even been able to figure out how to block it, and usually don’t have time when I’m working to figure these things out.
Our company gives you so much money, FedEx - why do you have to be so difficult to work with as thanks?!
Do you really want a bunch of people who don’t know how the internet and general tech works, along with massive corporate interest, regulating ads?
Edit: I’m from the US where our law markers are generally old and/or incompetent.
Vote in younger people and vote in educated people. And yes government CAN work for us and do good things. You have to vote for people who would do that.
Did anyone see that Biden’s bill gave more funds to the IRS. They hired more people to help us, and go after the rich tax cheats, and are making a free government online filing system. Also the TurboTax company are complaining about it…and the rich, and Republicans.
I also would like government healthcare.
That doesn’t work in the US, we’ve tried. I work in IT and the amount of people that have zero clue about tech amazes me. It’s like 75-80% of the population has zero fucking clue about anything behind how the Internet works. For example, when Montana lawmakers said “We’re passing a law to ban TikTok.” but didn’t expand beyond that.
EU has so far proven to know how the internet work and has been able to properly regulate it, so for my part yes. I would be delighted to see EU regulation on ads. But I don’t know anything about your government, maybe the really don’t know anything about tech but the EU government surely does.
Right now better than half or government doesn’t know how to govern. They are too busy fighting among themselves and imploding thanks to MAGA.
I’m from the US, so our law markers are generally boomers that don’t know shit or people in my generation that still don’t know shit. Just watch the various public hearings of them questioning Mark Zuckerberg or Sundar Pinchai and shake your head with me.
Ah, achieving optimal performance by letting them run more scripts and displaying more stuff.
They never said what performance they are optimizing, I’m pretty sure it’s profit.
Yes, it’s for optimizing their experience, not ours. F that BS.
While this is egregious, why are you buying chicken on KFC dot com?
I didn’t know that was even possible. This is a wholly unexpected mode of behavior.
Well its not going to be on BK dot com.
Can you be sure? Has anybody here ever taken the time to really look? We are making some very dangerous assumptions here.
Why don’t you come over, Friend?
We’d like to have you for dinner…!
Hmmmmm
You know they used to say you could have it your way. If I want KFC from BK they should live up to their end of the bargain and oblige.
Jesus Christ Marie, Use the fucking app!
why are you buying chicken on KFC dot com?
Delivery, most likely.
For KFC chicken? In America?
Yeah, most fast food places here have delivery options now, usually partnered through UberEats or GrubHub or one of those apps. At least in the cities, they do.
Otherwise, they also will typically let you order online so you can schedule it to be ready when you get there to pick it up, yourself.
even here in the boonies we have doordash now… just as expensive as in the city, and just as cold
whenif you get it.and i think you can still pay a one-way taxi fare and have them pick up an order and deliver. it has to be ready, waiting and already paid for–they won’t wait. this is the cheaper option, because you’re paying menu prices. not third-party ‘app’ prices plus bullshit fees and surcharges. fare is about 5 bucks anywhere in town.
My point is KfC chicken really isn’t the best choice these days
I agree, I’m not a big fan of most of their menu these days. Though, their Famous Bowls always hit hard.
Yeah just get it from the gas station like a normal person
God no, that’s a great way to get food poising
They’re graded like any other restaurant.
To each there own I suppose. I personally won’t do that. At least not in the US.
I went to a Krispy Krunchy Chicken at a gas station while travelling a few months ago… Gas station chicken has no business being that good.
Omg especially when they let it sit and it’s extra spicy!
A gas station several miles away makes amazing tasting food. I’m sure the fried chicken is fried in the cheapest transfat oil, but I’ve largely moved away from meat. I still eat it but I feel better when I restrict it. They also have baked chicken, meatloaf, etc and the veggies are slamming. And it’s not always cheaper anymore, to do it yourself, unless you catch a free ride that day and exchange your time.
Delivery
Wouldn’t want to have to move your body to get your artery clogging food
If I move too much the grease doesn’t congeal the way I like it
Some of us live in rural areas with No transport, including public.
If you live in rural areas you probably have better chicken than crap from KFC, no?
Then how do you go places?
Bike, walk, pay too much in time, money, effort, etc, or make friends and catch your rides when you can, understanding it may come at a mutual inconvenience.
Walking or asking a friend if they have time, usually at a cost of some gas.
An irritating number of companies make it inconvenient to just view a menu, and want you to “Start your order!” to see prices and availability. I get that certain items are regional so entering a zip code makes sense, but if I just want to look at a menu and prices to see if I even want to do business with them I shouldn’t have to create an account.
That said, for convenience purposes I’ll occasionally order food online or over the phone so it’s ready by the time I’m driving past on my way home and pick it up.
I often feel I’m stuck in the 90’s when it comes to ordering food. I like calling a restaurant, I like driving to pick it up myself, I like asking them shit about the menu over the phone.
I’m a human being, yo talk to me, don’t just tell me to go to the app or the website.
And before anyone beats me to it, yeah I’m angry at that cloud.
Human? I thought you were an albatross. 🤨
Despite the title, I was just trying to check the menu lol. 🥲
Remember kids, adblock stops more than just the ads you see.
Also, fuck yeah I’d download a chicken tender.
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Brave? Please educate yourself and stop using that piece of garbage.
What’s wrong with brave?
https://www.spacebar.news/stop-using-brave-browser/
Edit: If you can’t switch to Firefox and you’re looking for a good alternative that’s privacy-focused and functionally similar, take a look at Vivaldi. Solid chrome-based browser.
Most of the article talks about the CEO and the company, the only criticisms of the actual product (the browser) is that it’s bloated, which is very subjective because one mans bloat is another mans feature and the affiliate link injection scandal from 4 years ago, which definitely shouldn’t have been done but at least it wasn’t malicious and now is gone.
To be honest I think people on here dislike brave primarily due to ideological reasons, completely ignoring the fact that 99.9% of people aren’t hackermans™ and don’t want to install gnu icecat or librewolf with 7 different extensions. For those people it’s either chrome/edge or brave, the latter, even if not perfect is a way better option both for them and the internet.
Ahem. I was referring to “Adblock” as a class of software, not referring to one specific program (the same way that websites refer to blocking ads as “Adblock”).
You have made an incorrect assumption.
Sorry, best I can do is never visit your shitty website again. Guess I’ll order fried chicken from somewhere else, or, better yet, make a superior version at home!
I just close these types of sites and do something different out of spite.
Out of more love for myself, than greedy megacorporations.
What ads are even on a Pepsico website? Why would Pepsi need 3rd party advertising on their own website?
Probably telemetry, which most ad blockers also block. I think you meant kfc instead of pepsi
KFC is under the PepsiCo monopoly
Yum (KFC, Taco Bell, Pizza Hut) split from Pepsi a couple decades ago back in 1997.
TIL. Damn it
Not anymore though. They spun kfc, taco bell, and pizza hut years ago and they are under the yum brand now. They still have exclusive contracts regarding fountain. Not sure what other connections are left.
no it isn’t, it’s owned by yum brands, a Chinese restaurant conglomerate. not better, but not pepsico either.
Yum! Brands, Inc. (sometimes called simply Yum!), formerly Tricon Global Restaurants, Inc., is an American multinational fast food corporation listed on the Fortune 1000. Yum! operates the brands KFC, Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and The Habit Burger Grill, except in China, where the brands are operated by a separate company, Yum China. Yum! previously also owned Long John Silver’s and A&W Restaurants. The company was created as a spin-off of PepsiCo in 1997.
I went and looked up the Wikipedia page out of curiosity when someone disagreed that they’re a Chinese conglomerate and thought I’d share for anyone else reading the thread.
Short answer: not a Chinese conglomerate.
A Chinese conglomerate publicly traded on the NYSE who reports in USD and files with the SEC? A Chinese conglomerate with their headquarters in Kentucky whose majority investors are institutional? A Chinese conglomerate with most shares owned by people or companies in America and whose executives are all American?
They could be owned by sewer rats. But that wouldn’t matter 'cause I don’t eat the mother fucker anyway.
You order online for delivery to avoid COVID only to catch a computer virus from an ad. I used to watch my relatives browse to a news page and IMMEDIATELY get hit with a “MICROSOFT ERROR CALL xxx-xxx-xxxx TO FIX IT”. Then I put ublock origin on their PC aaaaaaand good game ads!
They didn’t understand what an adblocker is for? Their privacy vs. your privacy.
Secret? My god, the sense of entitlement of capital.
Just to be clear, is the implication here that people should use ad blockers in secret and that the “right” thing to do is to consume whatever media (and expose open tabs, history, etc) corporate wants you to see?
They’re kinda telling on themselves, ‘no secrets’ what does watching an add have to do with secrets, unless they want you to have no secrets from them, and give you all a your data. Then that sentence makes sense. That sentence has some real twist / projection / gaslighty vibes. Why do corporations feel like my abusive ex.
Because they are. They need you financially but they hate your guts too.
experience optimal performance
Phone immediately bricks due to the sheer volume of malware and ads piling into the browser.
That’s optimal performance for “put your phone down and go to the restaurant yourself”, which makes more money for KFC.
optimal performance
WTF
