For context this is an Andrew tate meatrider on twitter

  • @starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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    288 months ago

    There is something to be said for minimizing the risk of a crime being committed against you, but at absolutely no point should you blame the victim of a crime. I may have left my keys in the car, but the guy who stole it is the guy who stole it. Sure, if I’d remembered my keys, he probably wouldn’t have stolen it, but only one of us is to blame for a crime taking place, and it isn’t the one that didn’t commit a crime.

    • AggressivelyPassive
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      -188 months ago

      And those two things don’t contradict each other.

      A criminal can be a criminal and a victim can be at partial responsibility for creating that situation. This is pretty much uncontroversial for every crime, unless you somehow involve rape. Seriously, replace rape with any other crime, do you think all those people would scream around like they currently do? I doubt it. And that’s hypocrisy.

      • WhatTrees
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        128 months ago

        No. It went over your head again. The victim is not at fault, even partially. The guy who left his keys in the car is not even partially at fault, as stated in their comment, the only one responsible is the person who stole the car. Full stop. Are there things you can do to lower the risk of being a victim? Sure. Are you partially responsible if you don’t? NO.

        Of course people are more upset about rape than many other crimes because not all crimes are of equal harm to society and others. Murder and speeding are both crimes, are you gonna complain about people focusing on murder over speeding? Is it wrong for the news to cover a murder but not a speeding ticket? Is it that hard to imagine why rape might be seen as a more serious offense?

        Is it “hypocrisy” to call out victim-blaming for rape? It’s wrong in all cases, but especially heinous in the context of rape, not just because the majority of the victims are women, but because you are acting like rape is a force of nature that can’t be stopped, controlled, or lessened. Rape doesn’t happen because of the way she dressed or the lack of a man with her, it happened because someone decided to treat her as a sex object and use violence to carry that out.

        • AggressivelyPassive
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          -138 months ago

          You’re lying to yourself.

          If victims put themselves in situations where the crime is very likely, most people will at least put a partial responsibility on the victim. If you’d be honest to yourself, you would know that even you do that.