The latest incident came hours after eight people were killed in an airstrike on an aid distribution centre at al-Nuseirat camp in central Gaza, health officials said.

  • @Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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    -319 months ago

    This one?

    The IDF reports that Palestinian gunmen fired at civilians waiting for aid at Kuwait Square in Gaza City last night, resulting in casualties. IDF troops did not fire during the incident.

    As per the IDF’s investigation, a convoy of 31 trucks carrying food and humanitarian aid for civilians was en route to northern Gaza. An hour before reaching an IDF-established corridor, armed Palestinians shot at civilians waiting for the aid trucks, according to the probe.

    The IDF states that as the aid trucks entered the corridor, the gunmen continued shooting while some Gazans began looting the trucks. The IDF also observed civilians being run over by the trucks.

    Hamas health officials reported at least 21 deaths and over 150 injuries in the incident.

    After an intensive preliminary review, the IDF concluded that its forces did not fire at the aid convoy at Kuwait Square. The military’s operational systems and troops on the ground did not engage in tank shelling, airstrikes, or gunfire toward the Gazan crowd during the aid convoy’s presence.

    https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/1768585030412976318?s=19

        • @juicy@lemmy.todayOP
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          249 months ago

          Yeah, which ones? IndieWire, The Guardian, The Columbus Dispatch, Al Jazeera, Truthout? Those are the only sites I’ve posted from. Be specific. And when you say middle east, do you mean all of the Middle East or just the murderous ethno-colonial government in Israel?

          • @GBU_28@lemm.ee
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            -169 months ago

            Lol Israel is commiting genocide but good call throwing “in Israel” on the end

            • @middlemanSI@lemmy.world
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              149 months ago

              Which is it? Are you a zionist or not? What are you on about now? We are trying to establish something here.

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                Well, let’s define terms. Far as I know, Zionest means to believe e there should be a Jewish State, or Zion. I’m not a religious person, but I do believe people have always gathered in groups to become nations. I don’t see any difference for Jews. They have the right to exist just like everybody else. Hope that answers your question, and I hope your mama didn’t teach you to call others scum.

                • @middlemanSI@lemmy.world
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                  169 months ago

                  So this whole genocide business is ok with you, because Jews have a right to exist? Also, I didn’t call you scum - look again.

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                    In the grander scale of global politics, a fact is that Russia is waging an actual war against Ukraine and a covert war against Europe and the West. Another fact is that Palestine has chosen to side with Russia, so in the current situation I see no reason to side with Palestine. I think all resources to help Palestine should be diverted to help Ukraine. When Russia has been contained, we can start thinking about things like Gaza. But until that happens, every diversion just critically weakens us.

                    It’s like a hierarchy of needs, you know? If my neighbor is threatening to punch me in the face, I don’t have the luxury of being worried about a potentially worse thing happening on the other side of the city.

                    This doesn’t excuse genocide, if such a thing would be happening, but it sure does give a reason to support Israel over Palestine.

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      The IDF reports

      Non-credible biased source that has been known to habitually lie to further their narrative. Probably doing it again here.

      As per the IDF’s investigation

      Again, notoriously untrustworthy source. It’s like trusting American cops to investigate each other. You’re not getting the truth that way.

      The IDF states

      Common precursor to a bunch of lies

      The IDF also observed made up

      Much more likely

      the IDF concluded that its forces did not fire at the aid convoy

      Surprise surprise, more IDF lies that shifts the blame away from themselves, contrary to the reports of more credible sources.

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        Non-credible biased source that has been known to habitually lie to further their narrative. Probably doing it again here.

        Doesn’t that description match Hamas as well? “Gazan health ministry” is practically Hamas.

        • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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          79 months ago

          The casualty numbers and causal claims of the Gazan health ministry have repeatedly been judged consistent with the findings of neutral third party NGOs.

          Besides, the health ministry might be nominally under Hamas control, but the major clinics are run by the UNRWA and staffed by doctors, nurses and medical administrators, not Hamas terrorists.

        • @ashar@infosec.pub
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          69 months ago

          Gaza Health Ministry statistics are credible and used by everyone including the Israeli government and military. Athough the Israelis will publicly dispute the statistics, they use them internally as the numbers are good.

      • @Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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        -99 months ago

        You will only believe what you want to believe, right? You will only look at information you agree with.

        • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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          79 months ago

          That’s rich coming from someone quoting a tweet about statements from the IDF about something that happened in Gaza 😂

            • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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              79 months ago

              You want video?

              Considering the source, no thanks. Video can be deceptively edited and otherwise doctored, which the propaganda arm of the IDF have been known to consistently do.

              That you trust the IDF as a source in spite of their well-documented history of constant distortions amd outright fabrication makes it clear that you readily swallow horse shit and don’t understand why people don’t automatically agree that it’s actually prime beef.

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                That’s right, you only look at sources that agree with you. The contrary view is not considered and in fact discounted. You don’t want to see it because you may be deceived, when in fact you never consider you may already be deceived. Listen, I really don’t care what you believe. I am simply disrupting the chat box people like you enjoy. Carry on.

                • @Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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                  89 months ago

                  That’s right, you only look at sources that agree with you.

                  Not trusting a source with the reliability equivalent of The Daily Mail has nothing to do with whether I “agree”. That’s just a strawman you keep trotting out because you can’t defend your awful source.

                  Bias and source skepticism are not the same thing and pretending so is the refuge of people promoting poorly sourced bullshit.

        • @Keeponstalin@lemmy.world
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          99 months ago

          Hamas = every international organization, independent news source, and every human rights org who is critical of Israel and Israeli propaganda. Gottem lol

        • @Nudding@lemmy.world
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          49 months ago

          I’d love for you to waste your day trying to prove that. Better brew a pot of coffee big guy.