• @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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    69 months ago

    You are effectively voting for Trump or Biden - whichever candidate you dislike more. By choosing not to vote for one of the major parties you ethically own the awful consequences of whoever is elected.

    America has a horrible electoral system and it will almost certainly have a horrible choice in the general election - it fucking sucks. But if Trump is elected and women die because abortion is made nationally illegal or, if you’re conservative, I don’t know… either way, that shit is on you if you choose not to participate.

    Yeah, it sucks, but voting is your obligation.

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      9 months ago

      It sucks because voters keep allowing it to suck. The blame, if Trump is reelected, lies solely on voters not demanding their party primary Biden. Instead of holding him accountable they kept punching at the people trying to hold him accountable. Anyone that opposed the approved echo chamber rhetoric was quickly labeled Russian, bot, paid by Putin, etc.

      I am not effectively voting for either, red fascism or blue fascism is still fascism.

      • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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        29 months ago

        You are acting childish, women’s lives are on the line. The system is broken as shit but it’s what we have - voting for anyone but blue fascist or red fascist is just shirking responsibility.

        That fucking said, make your voice heard in the primary, vote uncommitted or for a local competitor (if one actually exists and isn’t worse than Biden). In other races vote for candidates that have a reasonable chance of winning, if you live in a solid blue state DSA is usually a great option.

        The system fucking sucks and I am sure as hell not going to defend it, I hate it so much that I emigrated… but I’m still going to vote.

        • @anticolonialist@lemmy.world
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          women’s lives are on the line

          Did you have that same energy when Obama said that codifying Roe versus Wade was no longer a priority?

          • @xmunk@sh.itjust.works
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            29 months ago

            Yea, it was fucking awful. Obama was not a good president - because of his actions we ended up with a watered-down ACA that has only marginally improved healthcare accessibility… and he often gets credit for gay marriage when he was really just riding the tail end of the social movement. If Clinton had locked in gay marriage in the 90s I’d be fucking impressed, there was a social movement but it didn’t have traction back then - by Obama several states had already done the hard work. Also drones fucking suck…

            But yea, France just wrote Abortion accessibility into their constitution, that’s how you fucking do it.