• @thisbenzingring
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    424 months ago

    It’s always child support. Fuckin trash.

    You make the baby, you pay the price. Pay your fuckin child support and support your child emotional by paying it on time.

    • @theangryseal@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Man. I know that having actual conversations instead of saying something everyone agrees with and patting ourselves on the back is dangerous territory on social media…

      That said, I’ve seen right wingers make this same argument about women and abortion and folks go insane.

      I have happily raised and supported my children, and I can’t personally relate to anyone who doesn’t want to, but still.

      My father abandoned me. I feel like he had the right. My mother admitted to me that she pretended to take her birth control because she really wanted a baby and my father wanted to wait. He wanted to be successful first. He’s helped me out a few times when he’s heard I’m dealing with something huge, but he didn’t have to. It was my mother’s choice to have and to keep me. She left him out of that and then demanded he pay for it.

      Now, if a man and a woman are building a life together and happen to have a child, I believe he should be legally required to take care of that child.

      In the case of a one night stand or something like that though, I believe “my life, my choice” is as important as “my body, my choice”. It’s practically the same damn thing. Being saddled with debt because a woman wanted to have a child just doesn’t seem right.

      I have adopted and raised two children. I have adult children that I’ve raised and supported. I’m raising kids right now and I made that decision. If I decide to roll out at this point, I believe my ass should go to jail if I reject my responsibilities.

      I think there are conversations worth having around that though. I know women have got the short end of the stick for a long time, and in a world where no one can make a choice, it isn’t fair to make one party carry the burden alone. In a world where a choice can be made, I feel different about it.

      Edit: So, no conversation then? Just downvote and go?

      I’m at 3 upvotes and 4 downvotes right now. I’m honestly interested in knowing why anyone would disagree. Like, a seriously thought out argument on why I’m wrong here.

      • @Thehalfjew@lemmy.world
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        54 months ago

        I used to feel the same as you. But the short answer here is because the law chooses to focus on the welfare of the child over either of the parents. It isn’t about being fair to the mother or the father. The mother and the father made the child. The child needs care. The mother and the father are the most reasonably responsible for its care.