Florida will no longer accept driver's licenses issued by some other U.S. states to immigrants living in the country illegally under a law signed by Governor Ron DeSantis as he seeks the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.
You feel Florida being able to unilaterally dictate validity of state documents is okay?
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
— Article IV Section 1 US Constitution
[The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes
— Article I Section 8 Clause 3 US Constitution
Florida doesn’t seem to have authority to just unilaterally dictate these things. It would seem that they must work with Congress to implement such regulation. The entire point the framers of the Constitution placed on the State system in Article IV of the Constitution is to:
Protect their rights to regulate their citizens
Prevent the abuse of them regulating other State citizens.
Florida’s move to attempt to apply some pressure to citizens from other states is a direct violation of the core ethos that the framers of this nation wanted to have. If Florida wants to regulate Floridians into a fine mushy pulp, that is Florida’s prerogative. Additionally, if Florida wants to prosecute someone from another State for violation of a law that Florida has, that’s fine too. Where the line is crossed is when in the carriage of enforcing that law, it requires Florida to openly question another State’s issuing documents. That is the violation.
Florida MUST work with Congress to implement the requirements for this framework that they have set up to function. Florida has not done so, they have forgone coming to the table to discuss the issue with the various States and decided to act in a unilateral manner. I get they want to clamp down on immigration, they must do so according to the laws that are set forth and must do so in good faith with the other States. This is neither.
nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
— 14th Amendment Section 1 US Constitution
No person, not citizen, NO PERSON, may be denied equal protection of the laws within the jurisdiction of the United States.
Your argument is moot.
EDIT: Additionally, that’s beside the point here. Another state has granted them license to drive, Florida has no standing to invalidate what some other State indicates. At issue is “is the driver’s license valid?” The State of issue is what determines that, that’s a State’s right thing. Florida has no equal State right that indicates that it can invalidate the issue of some other State. That’s the entire point of Section 1 of Article IV.
State’s can create acts related to this business and every other State must give full faith to the issuance of the originating State. This is less citizen or not issue but, “can say Florida declare Hawaii driver licenses invalid or not?” Article IV indicates that Florida has to extend full faith unless:
Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
Only Congress can pass a law that indicates that Florida may judge driver’s licenses on citizenship and then Florida positively pass such at the State level. Absent Congressional consent for this action, this is strictly a State versus State issue. And last I checked, most people had no issue with the understand that States have rights.
The illegal immigrant is just smoke screen for making a point that one State can invalidate another State’s paperwork. This was one of the cornerstones of Obergefell. If one State granted a couple a marriage certificate other States had to identify it as a valid marriage.
You feel Florida being able to unilaterally dictate validity of state documents is okay?
— Article IV Section 1 US Constitution
— Article I Section 8 Clause 3 US Constitution
Florida doesn’t seem to have authority to just unilaterally dictate these things. It would seem that they must work with Congress to implement such regulation. The entire point the framers of the Constitution placed on the State system in Article IV of the Constitution is to:
Florida’s move to attempt to apply some pressure to citizens from other states is a direct violation of the core ethos that the framers of this nation wanted to have. If Florida wants to regulate Floridians into a fine mushy pulp, that is Florida’s prerogative. Additionally, if Florida wants to prosecute someone from another State for violation of a law that Florida has, that’s fine too. Where the line is crossed is when in the carriage of enforcing that law, it requires Florida to openly question another State’s issuing documents. That is the violation.
Florida MUST work with Congress to implement the requirements for this framework that they have set up to function. Florida has not done so, they have forgone coming to the table to discuss the issue with the various States and decided to act in a unilateral manner. I get they want to clamp down on immigration, they must do so according to the laws that are set forth and must do so in good faith with the other States. This is neither.
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— 14th Amendment Section 1 US Constitution
No person, not citizen, NO PERSON, may be denied equal protection of the laws within the jurisdiction of the United States.
Your argument is moot.
EDIT: Additionally, that’s beside the point here. Another state has granted them license to drive, Florida has no standing to invalidate what some other State indicates. At issue is “is the driver’s license valid?” The State of issue is what determines that, that’s a State’s right thing. Florida has no equal State right that indicates that it can invalidate the issue of some other State. That’s the entire point of Section 1 of Article IV.
State’s can create acts related to this business and every other State must give full faith to the issuance of the originating State. This is less citizen or not issue but, “can say Florida declare Hawaii driver licenses invalid or not?” Article IV indicates that Florida has to extend full faith unless:
Only Congress can pass a law that indicates that Florida may judge driver’s licenses on citizenship and then Florida positively pass such at the State level. Absent Congressional consent for this action, this is strictly a State versus State issue. And last I checked, most people had no issue with the understand that States have rights.
The illegal immigrant is just smoke screen for making a point that one State can invalidate another State’s paperwork. This was one of the cornerstones of Obergefell. If one State granted a couple a marriage certificate other States had to identify it as a valid marriage.