• molave
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    -511 months ago

    Okay…? Why does the rich Saudi kid’s opinion on how civilians are totally okay to murder matter here?

    Probability-wise, you’re mad that Bin Laden even thought of murdering civilians in the first place. Bin Laden didn’t care because in his view, they’re virtually combatants i.e. valid targets for a struggle that you disagree with, to put it mildly.

    … how is that the same logic? Please, explain to me how “It’s okay to disrespect people who served in the armed forces of a revolt whose sole purpose was slavery” and “It’s okay to murder civilians because they pay taxes” is the same logic?

    The intensity of the desired action (mere disrespect vs. murder) is very different, but its logic is the same from my perspective: I want to do X on Y because I don’t like that Y does Z. Let’s take the “okay to murder civilians because they pay taxes” hypothetical sentiment. Though very remote, it’s not impossible for an unhinged enough anarchist to believe this and actually act on it.

    • PugJesus
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      411 months ago

      Probability-wise, you’re mad that Bin Laden even thought of murdering civilians in the first place. Bin Laden didn’t care because in his view, they’re virtually combatants i.e. valid targets for a struggle that you disagree with, to put it mildly.

      I can say infants are virtually combatants, and it doesn’t make it so. Why is his insane argument at all valid?

      The intensity of the desired action (mere disrespect vs. murder) is very different, but its logic is the same from my perspective: I want to do X on Y because I don’t like that Y does Z.

      what

      “I want to put murderers in jail because I don’t like that murderers kill people”

      is thus the same logic as

      “I want to murder gay people because I don’t like that gay people have sex with the same gender”

      are you fucking shitting me right now

      • molave
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        -311 months ago

        are you fucking shitting me right now

        No. It’s really the same logic. Otherwise, homophobia would not be even a thing anywhere in the world.

    • AutistoMephisto
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      -211 months ago

      I’m thinking that by your logic, you would also urinate on the graves of Vietnam veterans, many of whom had no choice, because they were conscripted, and either lacked the means to avoid conscription or were unable to flee the US.