• Flying Squid
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    178 months ago

    Even a UBI specifically for food- food stamps for all- would make a massive change and improve millions of lives.

    • @Dewded@lemmy.world
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      -88 months ago

      This could have negative effects similar to what has been seen in communist countries where vendor lock-in leads to weakened quality control if not every company can accept those food vouchers.

      It’s good to allow people freedom of choice.

      UBI would be at its best as a static lump sum of money.

      • Flying Squid
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        118 months ago

        Every supermarket already accepts food stamps. Expanding the program wouldn’t change that.

        • @Dewded@lemmy.world
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          -28 months ago

          How about any small business? If the process of being able to accept food stamps has bureaucracy, you’ll end up locking out small companies unable to meet requirements or who cannot afford it.

          Food stamps at scale could also lead to stores opting for the cheapest alternatives. Salaries will ultimately scale down through supply and demand to a point where people will have less money, but now they’ll have stamps. This in turn can hurt innovation and competition as newer products tend to cost more and people will need make stamps suffice for daily food.

          A money-based UBI is safer as you’ll ultimately see smaller salaries, but the amount of money you’ll have per month will remain static. This gives freedom of choice. Not to mention people also need homes, clothing and other daily goods in exchange for money.

          • Flying Squid
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            78 months ago

            Any business selling food can accept food stamps. There’s no barrier to accepting them. I’m not sure why you think any food-selling business would be left out.

            • tmyakal
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              68 months ago

              I think they don’t actually understand SNAP and they think you’re talking about literal vouchers like it’s an alternate physical currency.

              • @abraxas@sh.itjust.works
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                18 months ago

                I actually think if we added universal EBT/SNAP we could have the same effective pros of vouchers by having government-run supermarkets pop up. The “public option” would actually work for groceries, unlike healthcare (which should be universal).

                EBT would save money building their own retailer and negotiating their own prices (or even enforced price regulation for them), which would force for-profit grocery stores to permanently compete against a non-profit-seeking competitor they would never be able to run out of business.