• @novibe@lemmy.ml
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    88 months ago

    What…? The “urban area” is the built area. If you lived in the “non urban area”, you’d live in a park or something. I don’t think you understood what the commenter and the data meant.

    • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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      08 months ago

      People who have never been here confuse Paris and its suburbs.

      Paris is one of the few cities that has never grown. It has kept its size of 1860. So there are no places to build stuff on.

      There are other cities around Paris, which are part of the urban area, if you like, but which are seen as less desirable by the locals.

      Sorry, urban planning isn’t just a one size fits all thing. Each location has its own specificities. Paris grew that way. That led to a specific set of problems that aren’t just solved by just building new stuff.

      • @novibe@lemmy.ml
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        48 months ago

        Just let people build more vertically, prohibit investment into real estate and build more public housing. Expand public transport to areas around Paris and build public housing around it.

        Like there are fixes, there are examples of places resolving issues like this.

        Look at China for example.

        Paris already has pretty good urbanism and city planning. But the REAL solution is decommodifying housing, and the government would never do that as landlords are some of the most powerful people politically everywhere.

        • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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          28 months ago

          Paris has a bit over 22% of social housing at the moment I think. It’s constantly buying real estate to create more. And any new project has to integrate 20% of social housings.

          As for the rest, there’s strong reluctance against high buildings because they would change the skyline of the city. There are a few, here and there, but they aren’t liked. Obviously, they would contribute to adding some new dwellings on the market. But apparently, the people prefer a tense market with a “nicer” city. Things may change eventually.

          • Drusas
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            28 months ago

            Sounds similar to how San Francisco became completely unaffordable.