• ???OP
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      3611 months ago

      Which groups mentioned in the article are biased against Israel?

    • @eskimofry@lemmy.world
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      2311 months ago

      “US and israel politicians don’t believe casualty numbers from Palestinian government, so it must be true” says group biased towards Israel

    • @blitzkrieg@lemm.ee
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      Anyone with common decency should be against a war crime-comitting child-killing illegal state.

      • AmberPrince
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        Ohh what a fun argument! Is this comment referring to Palestine or Isreal???

          • AmberPrince
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            I liketo think my take on the conflict is pretty nuanced. Generally, I don’t like the State of Isreal.

            Let me be crystal clear with what I just wrote: I believe the government of Isreal has fostered a culture of dehumanizing Palestinians and is complicit in crimes against humanity. This is apparent with its history of stealing land and extra-judicial killings of Palestinian civilians by the IDF. The people of Israel deserve so much better.

            This sentiment also largely applies to Palestine. The Hamas Government triggered this conflict by striking at civilians in Israel. I understand that their primary driving ideology is to kill jews and I think that is fucked up. I also understand that after years of the afore mentioned land grabbing and killings it has led to these extreme attacks by Hamas. It really feels like a chicken and egg situation, which started first. Either way the people of Palestine deserve so much better.

            I am more than capable of assigning blame to the appropriate places and lament the affects it has on the victims of violence.

          • @DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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            -311 months ago

            Idk, how far are we stretching the definition of carpet bomb? Is it as far detached from the actual definition like your usage of “genocide”? Are we including massive missile barrages? I don’t think Hamas wants to stop firing those off.

        • @CJOtheReal
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          The instance tag says “Lemmy.world” so probably Israel… But that’s normal behavior on that instance, most people that aren’t banned there hate jews.

    • @CJOtheReal
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      Pretty idiotic argument, even if im very pro Israel, UN is relatively neutral on that and the death toll doesn’t seem to much out of place given the amount of attacks.

      But there is nothing possible to do about that either way.

      • ???OP
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        2111 months ago

        But there is nothing possible to do about that either way.

        Poor Israel has no choice but to kill 7k people.

          • @CJOtheReal
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            -1111 months ago

            Ah yes troll because the account is a day old? Bruh your account was a day old some day as well?

        • @CJOtheReal
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          Other countries would have turned gaza into a glass desert by now… Most would have. And don’t tell my otherwise, if your country gets attacked on a important holiday, by people specifically targeting civilians killing and kidnapping people, everyone else would have been done by now.

          I Don’t say Israel isn’t doing some shady and problematic things, but the blame falls mostly on those that caused all of that to themselves and now use civilians as human shields while launching rockets into civilian areas (sometimes even the ones they claim their territory as seen in the hospital incident)

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            1911 months ago

            Nothing justifies what Israel is doing to civilians, not even the normalization of war crimes in global politics.

            • @CJOtheReal
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              111 months ago

              If Israel wanted to they would have already made Palestinia into a glass desert, don’t intentionally target civilians, at worst they just don’t give a fuck about them.

      • @DoomBot5@lemmy.world
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        011 months ago

        UN is far from neutral towards Israel and takes most of their data from the local government, regardless of their international status as a terror organization.

        • @CJOtheReal
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          311 months ago

          They get independent information about those numbers as well.

      • @SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world
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        -411 months ago

        Talking about the UN as a singular entity that has objective features is silly and quite honestly emphasizes your lack of knowledge