• AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    A sociopath told you that you aren’t capable of having moral judgements about people dying and that you needed to listen to vetted experts instead. It’s not complicated actually. I contend that pointless death is in fact a bad thing

    • thilo
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      10 months ago

      And who or what desides if a death is pointless?

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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        3710 months ago

        If you think there’s glory in these deaths then stop cheering from the backfield and take the place of someone gang pressed off the street.

        • thilo
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          410 months ago

          Even if I would do that I suppose you wouldn’t be happier with the situation. And guess what, neither would I.

          • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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            3410 months ago

            But that’s what you’re saying, right? These deaths are valuable just for the sake of fighting in some abstract sense? Because the bad guy is bad?

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              10 months ago

              No, as I said in my first answer, there are no generally right or wrong answers. There are people dying because of some vanity project of the rich and powerful. I also hold the opinion, that those shall be prevented at all costs. But if my information on the conflict is correct and this war started as a civil war on the topic of secession, then the question get’s hard to answer almost instantly, and also highly individual.

              • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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                2510 months ago

                How can you both say that the war is a vanity project for the rich and powerful and the same time argue that the deaths caused by it have meaning?

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                  10 months ago

                  Because for some people they do.

                  edit: In another post you mentioned the breakaway republics, there you have your examples. People who don’t want to live under a certain regime or don’t want to live under theirs anymore. Sometimes fighting is the only option left for people, and sometimes fighting people know they will die fighting.

    • Shalakushka
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      410 months ago

      Good to know if someone invaded your country that you would be a capitulator and collaborator in the name of an unjust peace.

    • JasSmith
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      410 months ago

      I do too. That’s why I hope Ukraine is able to defend themselves against Russia bombing hospitals and torturing children. Once they’ve pushed Russia all the way back to their border, I hope that the world gives Ukraine so many weapons that Russia will never think about attacking them again.