That’s roughly similar to catch up development (which is always faster and easier), except automated. With catch up development those doing it only make waves for some time before they, well, catch up and find deep inability to evolve, similar to USSR, which is where it ends. While with this - things are made from something already created all the time.
Basically all you need to make something a source of training data, laundered of authorship with plausible deniability, is for that something to be publicly available.
Meaning that at least in art we might be back to private orders and works available to limited circles of viewers, I think. Once it becomes unprofitable enough to publish your works, and once the existing pool of training data is exhausted and falls back enough compared to what’s in demand and in fashion.
OK, that’s just an exercise in high school level “outta my ass” style analysis.
I mean, Antique Mediterranean had all sorts of mystery religions. Perhaps we are on the threshold of an era of mystery art.
There’s already mystery music out there. Small circles of folks putting things out that they don’t expect or want people outside the circle to hear. I’m a nobody and I’m part of two different groups who share music with each other, build on each other’s works, try genre mashups and new shit that may never get done again, many times because it’s a mess but sometimes just because it was a fun one time thing.
That’s really interesting. I’ve mostly done only small experiments with generative music and povray renders, sharing them with friends, but that’s usually not enough to call a circle. But my friend has such a circle for poetry. I mean, with poetry this is pretty traditional.
I guess it does depend on what you call a circle. There are maybe a dozen of us in one. In the other there are probably three or four dozen. I don’t know everyone. I got invited because I like genre bending. We’ve got a private forum where we share things.
Even outside of that, there is a place that used to be less private but has now gone private (guess why) where we would do Sunday songwriters. We’d get a topic, record a little something before the next Sunday, then share. After sharing we’d critique, do mashups, genre hop, create genre crossovers, and generally just have fun with each other’s music.
I do not know how prevalent this is. I know of two private places, one of which is very small, and a third place that used to be public (with no expectation of anyone actually seeing it) but went private because of Suno.
That’s roughly similar to catch up development (which is always faster and easier), except automated. With catch up development those doing it only make waves for some time before they, well, catch up and find deep inability to evolve, similar to USSR, which is where it ends. While with this - things are made from something already created all the time.
Basically all you need to make something a source of training data, laundered of authorship with plausible deniability, is for that something to be publicly available.
Meaning that at least in art we might be back to private orders and works available to limited circles of viewers, I think. Once it becomes unprofitable enough to publish your works, and once the existing pool of training data is exhausted and falls back enough compared to what’s in demand and in fashion.
OK, that’s just an exercise in high school level “outta my ass” style analysis.
I mean, Antique Mediterranean had all sorts of mystery religions. Perhaps we are on the threshold of an era of mystery art.
There’s already mystery music out there. Small circles of folks putting things out that they don’t expect or want people outside the circle to hear. I’m a nobody and I’m part of two different groups who share music with each other, build on each other’s works, try genre mashups and new shit that may never get done again, many times because it’s a mess but sometimes just because it was a fun one time thing.
That’s really interesting. I’ve mostly done only small experiments with generative music and povray renders, sharing them with friends, but that’s usually not enough to call a circle. But my friend has such a circle for poetry. I mean, with poetry this is pretty traditional.
I guess it does depend on what you call a circle. There are maybe a dozen of us in one. In the other there are probably three or four dozen. I don’t know everyone. I got invited because I like genre bending. We’ve got a private forum where we share things.
Even outside of that, there is a place that used to be less private but has now gone private (guess why) where we would do Sunday songwriters. We’d get a topic, record a little something before the next Sunday, then share. After sharing we’d critique, do mashups, genre hop, create genre crossovers, and generally just have fun with each other’s music.
I do not know how prevalent this is. I know of two private places, one of which is very small, and a third place that used to be public (with no expectation of anyone actually seeing it) but went private because of Suno.