They are better than the alternative, but folks want them to be perfect when Nazis are running around killing Americans and if they’re not then fuck em.
Well I want the Dems to literally light themselves on fire for what they did to Gaza, but really “folks” just want Dems to be decent. Like Dems don’t even want to defund ICE, they just want to put down bullshit procedural crap that they’ll face zero consequences
Want them to stop accepting corporate bribe money and start representing their constituents. Perfect is so far from the ask here. Literally just want them to not be total sacks of shit.
No, I want them to GTFO of the way. If our election system only admits two major parties, then they are complicit by camping out in one of the slots, preventing a political party that’d actually put up a fight from arising. Whatever their alleged motivation, or level of cooperation, it no longer matters at this point; they have been the party in that second slot as U.S. political institutions slid into fascism over the course of decades. The record shows that they’re not going to turn it around should they win back Congress in the mid-terms (if we even have elections). At best, they might stave off full fascism for another few election cycles. That’s the issue we have with Democrats.
That is the ultimate goal, isn’t it? The problem here is that the situation isn’t so neatly reciprocal. The Republicans offer about ⅓ of the nation exactly what they want, whereas the Democrats offer nobody exactly what they want. The favorability ratings in the polls show that. They only offer, “we’re marginally better than fascists,” which is good enough for a small lead in polling for the midterm elections, masking how deeply unpopular Republican actions are, and providing a veneer of legitimacy for them in the form of a near-tie.
Better than Republicans is a bar so low it’s basically touching the core of the earth. Nah, I mean better than they have been, which is also a subterranean bar.
The problem is that a third of the country think killing all the immigrants is “better” and another third are too uniformed to have an opinion either way.
it’s hilarious that in a post about the racist rapist pedophile nazi fascist con man dictator talking about canceling elections, we STILL have people in the thread bitching about DEMS LOL
Yeah because the Dems didn’t go after the racist rapist pedophile Nazi fascist con man dictator when they had the fucking power to do so 🤦 because they gotta protect the racist rapist pedophile Nazi fascist elites loyal to their faction of capital 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
It’s not funny at all. If the Dems weren’t such obvious controlled opposition, there could be an alternative to fascism. Americans haven’t had a choice for some time now, which is precisely how we got into this mess.
well, in the situation we’ve been in for the last who knows how tf many decades, where it’s “DNC’s pick or nobody” you’d think people would at least wise up and vote against nazi fascism, rather than think they’re actually doing something by sitting out or going 3rd party.
exactly what was accomplished by going with the 100% guaranteed fail route? take a look around-- are you going to tell me a kamala potus (or literally ANYONE else) would have been nearly as bad? how’s that genocide going? i know i didn’t specify the gaza genocide or the usa genocide because i leave it to you to take your pick
I know, orange man bad. You don’t have to convince me of that buddy because I’m living in it with you.
Here’s the thing - it is incumbent upon Dems to give the people something to vote for. Blaming the voters for not falling in line is just wrong, and actually accomplishes nothing. What I’m saying is that this is precisely the Dem strategy. Just look to Schumer and Jeffries’ plan for the next few years - it’s literally to do nothing, and try to win votes by way of the suffering of their fellow Americans under the Trump regime.
The way for dems to win elections is by presenting a bold, and objectively better, vision for the future and fighting to achieve it. Dems could learn a lot from Bernie and AOC about what that looks like, eg “fight the oligarchy,” but they are paid to pretend otherwise. The result, as it has been for literally the past 50 years, is further ratcheting towards fascism.
Unfortunately for us all, the window of opportunity is likely completely closed to vote our way out of this mess. And so the system must collapse in order to be rebuilt anew, stronger and with better safeguards for checks and balances to protect democracy. That’s why you see people giving up on voting, or voting repug to accelerate the empire’s demise. Don’t be so surprised as to the reasons why, it’s been plain to see for a long time now.
Here’s the thing - it is incumbent upon Dems to give the people something to vote for. Blaming the voters for not falling in line is just wrong, and actually accomplishes nothing.
people. are. dying.
because i DoNt WaAaAaAnNa VoTe DeM
don’t worry. as you said–the good old days of voting are more likely than not just fucking over. at least with a D government, you would’ve had another chance to vote. good luck to you, i hope you and all of yours are white
I mean have the Dems just tried being better?
No actually, they haven’t!
I mean have the Dems just tried
being better?There, fixed.
They’ve tried nothing and they’re all out of ideas!
Are you seriously suggesting dems aren’t better than Hitler 2.0 and his regime? Get real.
Not at all. I’m suggesting that they just be good enough, as opposed to merely being less shit than the GOP.
They are better than the alternative, but folks want them to be perfect when Nazis are running around killing Americans and if they’re not then fuck em.
Well I want the Dems to literally light themselves on fire for what they did to Gaza, but really “folks” just want Dems to be decent. Like Dems don’t even want to defund ICE, they just want to put down bullshit procedural crap that they’ll face zero consequences
Want them to stop accepting corporate bribe money and start representing their constituents. Perfect is so far from the ask here. Literally just want them to not be total sacks of shit.
No, I want them to GTFO of the way. If our election system only admits two major parties, then they are complicit by camping out in one of the slots, preventing a political party that’d actually put up a fight from arising. Whatever their alleged motivation, or level of cooperation, it no longer matters at this point; they have been the party in that second slot as U.S. political institutions slid into fascism over the course of decades. The record shows that they’re not going to turn it around should they win back Congress in the mid-terms (if we even have elections). At best, they might stave off full fascism for another few election cycles. That’s the issue we have with Democrats.
Maybe the Republicans can GTFO of the way
That is the ultimate goal, isn’t it? The problem here is that the situation isn’t so neatly reciprocal. The Republicans offer about ⅓ of the nation exactly what they want, whereas the Democrats offer nobody exactly what they want. The favorability ratings in the polls show that. They only offer, “we’re marginally better than fascists,” which is good enough for a small lead in polling for the midterm elections, masking how deeply unpopular Republican actions are, and providing a veneer of legitimacy for them in the form of a near-tie.
Being better than Republicans?
Better than Republicans is a bar so low it’s basically touching the core of the earth. Nah, I mean better than they have been, which is also a subterranean bar.
The problem is that a third of the country think killing all the immigrants is “better” and another third are too uniformed to have an opinion either way.
it’s hilarious that in a post about the racist rapist pedophile nazi fascist con man dictator talking about canceling elections, we STILL have people in the thread bitching about DEMS LOL
Yeah because the Dems didn’t go after the racist rapist pedophile Nazi fascist con man dictator when they had the fucking power to do so 🤦 because they gotta protect the racist rapist pedophile Nazi fascist elites loyal to their faction of capital 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
It’s not funny at all. If the Dems weren’t such obvious controlled opposition, there could be an alternative to fascism. Americans haven’t had a choice for some time now, which is precisely how we got into this mess.
well, in the situation we’ve been in for the last who knows how tf many decades, where it’s “DNC’s pick or nobody” you’d think people would at least wise up and vote against nazi fascism, rather than think they’re actually doing something by sitting out or going 3rd party.
exactly what was accomplished by going with the 100% guaranteed fail route? take a look around-- are you going to tell me a kamala potus (or literally ANYONE else) would have been nearly as bad? how’s that genocide going? i know i didn’t specify the gaza genocide or the usa genocide because i leave it to you to take your pick
I know, orange man bad. You don’t have to convince me of that buddy because I’m living in it with you.
Here’s the thing - it is incumbent upon Dems to give the people something to vote for. Blaming the voters for not falling in line is just wrong, and actually accomplishes nothing. What I’m saying is that this is precisely the Dem strategy. Just look to Schumer and Jeffries’ plan for the next few years - it’s literally to do nothing, and try to win votes by way of the suffering of their fellow Americans under the Trump regime.
The way for dems to win elections is by presenting a bold, and objectively better, vision for the future and fighting to achieve it. Dems could learn a lot from Bernie and AOC about what that looks like, eg “fight the oligarchy,” but they are paid to pretend otherwise. The result, as it has been for literally the past 50 years, is further ratcheting towards fascism.
Unfortunately for us all, the window of opportunity is likely completely closed to vote our way out of this mess. And so the system must collapse in order to be rebuilt anew, stronger and with better safeguards for checks and balances to protect democracy. That’s why you see people giving up on voting, or voting repug to accelerate the empire’s demise. Don’t be so surprised as to the reasons why, it’s been plain to see for a long time now.
people. are. dying.
because i DoNt WaAaAaAnNa VoTe DeM
don’t worry. as you said–the good old days of voting are more likely than not just fucking over. at least with a D government, you would’ve had another chance to vote. good luck to you, i hope you and all of yours are white