That was an example, the point is it is possible to intercept it. It’s been done in the wild - again that’s why there’s such need for other methods of 2FA.
Re: Apple or Google
That’s even easier for them, because, you know, they’ve got access to the phone. Heck, famously Apple had a bug/feature where it stored text of notifications which affected Signal, too. In that case it was law enforcement who took advantage of that, though.
I wouldn’t go around sounding the alarm about SMS, because I don’t think many people send stuff that shouldn’t be plaintext via SMS. I like using SMS, actually, because how simple it is and you don’t need 4G for that.
But the fact is messages can be read one way or another. If you want to conspire, definitely use something else.
Re: Apple or Google. That’s even easier for them, because, you know, they’ve got access to the phone.
Okay, so no mobile chat apps are safe?
The point here is that Apple and (especially) Google are most certainly collecting your data when using RCS. And only the carriers and the govt are collecting your data in SMS, not Google or Apple.
In that way, I don’t think any RCS is superior in any way outside of functionality.
Okay, one last time. Those are two different issues.
The whole point of this thread was that it was possible to intercept the messages. That’s all. I doubt the OP needs to worry about that. But it’s possible as was stated by the other poster.
It’s like claiming that mail can’t be intercepted. Of course it can, but generally speaking you don’t have to worry about that. Though it would be foolish to claim otherwise (especially when one quick web search can show you cases when someone successfully pulled it off)
That was an example, the point is it is possible to intercept it. It’s been done in the wild - again that’s why there’s such need for other methods of 2FA.
Re: Apple or Google That’s even easier for them, because, you know, they’ve got access to the phone. Heck, famously Apple had a bug/feature where it stored text of notifications which affected Signal, too. In that case it was law enforcement who took advantage of that, though.
I wouldn’t go around sounding the alarm about SMS, because I don’t think many people send stuff that shouldn’t be plaintext via SMS. I like using SMS, actually, because how simple it is and you don’t need 4G for that.
But the fact is messages can be read one way or another. If you want to conspire, definitely use something else.
Okay, so no mobile chat apps are safe?
The point here is that Apple and (especially) Google are most certainly collecting your data when using RCS. And only the carriers and the govt are collecting your data in SMS, not Google or Apple.
In that way, I don’t think any RCS is superior in any way outside of functionality.
Okay, one last time. Those are two different issues.
The whole point of this thread was that it was possible to intercept the messages. That’s all. I doubt the OP needs to worry about that. But it’s possible as was stated by the other poster.
It’s like claiming that mail can’t be intercepted. Of course it can, but generally speaking you don’t have to worry about that. Though it would be foolish to claim otherwise (especially when one quick web search can show you cases when someone successfully pulled it off)
Good day.
Edit: typos