EDIT: Getting a ton of great responses thanks everyone <3 Once this is up for 24 hours or so I’ll make another edit summarizing everyone’s recs for future reference. Keep ‘em coming!

TL;DR Have any recs for non-Apple phones/laptops that have lifespans of at least 5+ years?

Wanted to get everyone’s opinion on want brands/products have worked for them. I’m lightly techy and not afraid to put some effort in, but also don’t want to build everything from scratch. I think Apple’s products are often anti-consumer, anti-privacy, anti-yadda yadda yadda.

At the same time, with both phones and laptops, I’ve found my Apple products to have double or even triple the lifespan of any other brand. I did my research and bought a $1000+ HP laptop with Ryzen7 a little over two years ago, and due to a flaw in the hinge which is now subject to a class action lawsuit, the screen has cracked and it’s mostly unusable. Other purchase haven’t failed quite that dramatically but don’t tend to last as long. On the other hand, my or my partner’s old Macbooks and iPhones are easily seeing 5+ years of use in addition to software updates.

So let me know what’s worked for you!

  • @d3Xt3r@beehaw.org
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    221 year ago
    • Laptop: Framework. Modular hardware, easy to upgrade and repair.
    • Smartphone: Pixel + GrapheneOS.
    • @cnnrduncan@beehaw.org
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      51 year ago

      Framework definitely seems the way to go if you want a long-lived laptop - as long as you live in one of the few countries that they sell to!

    • @Camilo@discuss.tchncs.de
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      41 year ago

      Pixel + Graphene OS is such a good combination! I’ve been using it for months now and I feel free with it.

      I wish small pixels were still a thing, now they are all 6inch+