EDIT: Getting a ton of great responses thanks everyone <3 Once this is up for 24 hours or so I’ll make another edit summarizing everyone’s recs for future reference. Keep ‘em coming!

TL;DR Have any recs for non-Apple phones/laptops that have lifespans of at least 5+ years?

Wanted to get everyone’s opinion on want brands/products have worked for them. I’m lightly techy and not afraid to put some effort in, but also don’t want to build everything from scratch. I think Apple’s products are often anti-consumer, anti-privacy, anti-yadda yadda yadda.

At the same time, with both phones and laptops, I’ve found my Apple products to have double or even triple the lifespan of any other brand. I did my research and bought a $1000+ HP laptop with Ryzen7 a little over two years ago, and due to a flaw in the hinge which is now subject to a class action lawsuit, the screen has cracked and it’s mostly unusable. Other purchase haven’t failed quite that dramatically but don’t tend to last as long. On the other hand, my or my partner’s old Macbooks and iPhones are easily seeing 5+ years of use in addition to software updates.

So let me know what’s worked for you!

  • nakal
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    1 year ago

    No one says the devices are anti consumer, except for some that are intentionally made incompatible with common replacement parts (missing “apple logo”). The walled garden is.

    • @LinuxSBC@lemm.ee
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      41 year ago

      It’s not just a “missing Apple logo” that makes parts not work. If you swap a part from one Apple device to another identical Apple device, it will often not work. For example, the Face ID and Touch ID sensors are paired to the logic board.

      • @Bitrot
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        1 year ago

        They are paired, which sort of makes sense if you want to try and avoid people modifying them to defeat security, but should have a way for the end user to update it if they’re very sure they want to.

        They sell the parts these days and will pair them for you. They also sell the tools required for the fix (and also rent them out).

        • @NightAuthor@beehaw.org
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          21 year ago

          The self-repair scheme is a facade, they charge just as much for you to do it yourself as they would charge to do it for you.

          As far as touch/face-id, all you have to do is have the registered fingerprints tied to the sensor. If you switch sensor, then finger/face needs to be re-registered. In fact, I think it already works that way, but with the added unnecessary step of getting daddy cook’s kiss of approval in the new sensor.