• @Pi7on@lemmy.world
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    -21 year ago

    100% agree.

    Serious question: what’s been stopping us from making a fully decentralized reddit, or social network in general?

    Something that’s completely peer to peer based, where people themselves host the content they interact with, and have the freedom to hide whichever type of content THEY want?

    Has it been purely a technical problem? Is there discourse on this concept?

    • @seiryth@lemmy.world
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      111 year ago

      It’s a technical set of problems.

      • Where does the front end live, who hosts it, who pays for the compute, and what determines the latest version is the truest version
      • where does the data sit. Posts, media, content, and how does this get referenced properly in a safe way.

      What’s funny is truely distributed compute is totally possible today, thanks to a lot of work done in the blockchain community. Notice I said blockchain and not crypto, we don’t want the bullshit associated with that (coins, nfts etc). What we want is distributed compute and storage that can be read in a way that provides the same function as Reddit etc. Coupled with a good client experience like sync.

      The biggest problem with that though is that blockchain that is truely distributed is slow by nature, because each block of data is distributed and validated to all nodes that host to keep consistency. And the larger a site becomes, the more data there is to store, and the more resource intensive verification becomes so therefore the nodes slowly gain a higher set of requirements.

      So the middle ground is something like Lemmy. Where you can run your own instance, that talks to a wider federated network of instances where no one single entity can control the content.

      In tech, a lot of the above is explained by a concept called CAP theorem. It’s a really interesting problem that has only really been solved by a few vendors (google spanner is a good one) but even then it doesn’t cover the distributed part.

    • @vic_rattlehead@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      That’s basically Lemmy though? Unfortunately, expecting non-technical people to host their own content and moderate their own experiences is too much work and not worth it or viable for most users. Reddit made it easy, and its user base was still tiny compared to the bigger social media platforms.

      • @Pi7on@lemmy.world
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        21 year ago

        Lemmy is not peer to peer, it’s federated, which is a big difference.

        Self hosting your content and moderating your own experience could be made super easy and trasparent, in theory, but I understand that actually implanting this kind of UX must not be an easy task. It does seem the only solution for a truly censorship free network tho.

      • Schadrach
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        11 year ago

        That’s basically Lemmy though?

        That’s only Lemmy if you use an instance that isn’t blocking other instances for being some variety of offensive. SDF is an example of that, they block no one and to my knowledge aren’t currently being blocked by anyone which means you have access to everything if you want it and you are in control of what you see or don’t see. Not too worried about them going anywhere either, since it’s hosted by an org that’s been around since the 80s.