I might forgive a 13 year old writing something this crass. But at 19 years of age, he was plenty old enough to know better. The reason he shat on Anne Frank isn’t because he made a mistake as a kid, but because he’s a shitty self-centered person. This clearly hasn’t changed.
I’m not a fan of his and agree that what he did there was extremely shitty and self-centered, but do we actually have reason to believe he has clearly not changed?
I don’t keep up with the guy, but I do know that people can change. Especially so after being publicly humbled, as well as after a decade+ has passed. Then there’s also the public journey of experiencing such grand fame so young and then having to outgrow his welcome. For better or worse, these things all leave marks.
Literally everyone I know has said something insensitive or otherwise regrettable at one time or another, and I’d be willing to bet all I’ve got that you have too. That’s just part of the deal, right? It’s not that I’m arguing his sainthood or anything, but without evidence that he’s exactly the same now as he was then, I’m a bit bristly on the thought of judging a stranger on such absolute terms.
I was a complete asshole until ~28. I’d like to think I’m largely changed. I work hard to help my community and local charities. I go out of my way to support friends and family. If I met my 19yo self I’d punch him in the face.
do we actually have reason to believe he has clearly not changed?
Yes: people can change when they have some character flaw that doesn’t run too deep, or when they have bad habits that can be reformed.
My point is, being this insensitive at the age he was when he wrote this doozie clearly shows the man is profoundly sociopathic and narcisist. And I don’t believe people like that truly ever change for the better, because the flaw is hard-coded in their brain.
Honestly I don’t think I understand what you’re implying with the age thing. 19 is not maturity. It’s still teenage. 19 is very much well within the timeframe for crass, offensive, rude, stupid, self-centred bullshit that comes from total naivety and inexperience.
Bro don’t go around throwing the term “sociopathic” like that, Jesus.
You wanna know what the last 4 letters of 19 spell? Teen. The dude was still a teenager, man. Yeah, he was technically “legal” in the eyes of the law, but he was still young as hell and didn’t know the meaning behind saying shit like that.
Hell, if him saying that makes him a sociopath, what does that make Kanye, or Chris Brown, or Harvey Weinstein?
And God forbid if you ever said anything insensitive and someone finds out about it, because I’m sure you’re not gonna feel too great about someone labeling YOU a sociopath because you called someone the n-word on COD 12 years ago.
Well cry me a river…
I lost any and all respect for this guy when he crassly defiled the memory of Anne Frank for cheap self-promotion. Fuck Justin Bieber.
I mean that was over 12 years ago. He was a very young adult. Does he still defend his comment?
I might forgive a 13 year old writing something this crass. But at 19 years of age, he was plenty old enough to know better. The reason he shat on Anne Frank isn’t because he made a mistake as a kid, but because he’s a shitty self-centered person. This clearly hasn’t changed.
I’m not a fan of his and agree that what he did there was extremely shitty and self-centered, but do we actually have reason to believe he has clearly not changed?
I don’t keep up with the guy, but I do know that people can change. Especially so after being publicly humbled, as well as after a decade+ has passed. Then there’s also the public journey of experiencing such grand fame so young and then having to outgrow his welcome. For better or worse, these things all leave marks.
Literally everyone I know has said something insensitive or otherwise regrettable at one time or another, and I’d be willing to bet all I’ve got that you have too. That’s just part of the deal, right? It’s not that I’m arguing his sainthood or anything, but without evidence that he’s exactly the same now as he was then, I’m a bit bristly on the thought of judging a stranger on such absolute terms.
I was a complete asshole until ~28. I’d like to think I’m largely changed. I work hard to help my community and local charities. I go out of my way to support friends and family. If I met my 19yo self I’d punch him in the face.
Yes: people can change when they have some character flaw that doesn’t run too deep, or when they have bad habits that can be reformed.
My point is, being this insensitive at the age he was when he wrote this doozie clearly shows the man is profoundly sociopathic and narcisist. And I don’t believe people like that truly ever change for the better, because the flaw is hard-coded in their brain.
Honestly I don’t think I understand what you’re implying with the age thing. 19 is not maturity. It’s still teenage. 19 is very much well within the timeframe for crass, offensive, rude, stupid, self-centred bullshit that comes from total naivety and inexperience.
Bro don’t go around throwing the term “sociopathic” like that, Jesus. You wanna know what the last 4 letters of 19 spell? Teen. The dude was still a teenager, man. Yeah, he was technically “legal” in the eyes of the law, but he was still young as hell and didn’t know the meaning behind saying shit like that.
Hell, if him saying that makes him a sociopath, what does that make Kanye, or Chris Brown, or Harvey Weinstein?
And God forbid if you ever said anything insensitive and someone finds out about it, because I’m sure you’re not gonna feel too great about someone labeling YOU a sociopath because you called someone the n-word on COD 12 years ago.
Didn’t realize we had a psychologist who specialized in child stars on Lemmy who could diagnose strangers so well. Pretty cool
It’s the internet. Everyone is an expert on everything.