I’m hearing that the USFS has laid off huge numbers of firefighters, including veterans, and won’t be allowed to hire their usual seasonal firefighting force this year.

Edit: ProPublica now has a detailed article

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    Maybe we can talk about how the California government, including Newsom, have explicitly allowed PG&E to pass along the fines for their responsibility in the fires and being convicted of manslaughter to customers. And how this has made the penalties for their criminal negligence meaningless.

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        Or measured in percentage of overall profits. Preferably both.

        If they have to forfeit say half of the years profits and a 10% share of the company as punishment, they might actually start trying to avoid committing mass negligent homicide.

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          Never profits. Has to be revenue.

          Companies and legally hide profits and show losses on their balance sheets whereas revenues are much easier to calculate and harder to hide.

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              If I’m running a business, 100% of its earnings will be paid out. Any earnings I haven’t previously allocated will be paid out as bonuses. My workers and I will all have income from that business, but the business itself will never show a single penny in profit.

              That’s not fraud. That’s not “tax avoidance”. That should be the objective of every responsible business: paying out every earned cent to the people who created those earnings.

              It’s also pretty easy to implement: Set corporate income taxes at 100%, and the effective corporate income tax rate fall to zero. No business will hold back any profits; everything will be paid out.

              Parent comment is correct: Fines cannot be a percentage of profit. They could, conceivably, be a percentage of revenue, but that’s not particularly good either: Any action you take on the cashflow within the business disproportionately affects the workers and customers of the business.

              Whatever actions we take must target the owners and managers. The decision makers. The people responsible for setting policy, not the people carrying out that policy. That means we don’t touch the profits or the revenue. We dilute their shares. For every 19 outstanding shares, we create a new one and put it in an IRS liquidation portfolio. Now we own 5% of the company, and we auction those shares off to the general public over time. The existing shareholders lose ~5% of their value, and are incentivized to hold their management team accountable for their losses.

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        we need a corporate death penalty also, thats not steered by the need for jobs. We need to reform capitalism itself. The current iteration doesnt work.

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          we need a corporate death penalty also

          I would say that the corporate equivalent of the death penalty is seizure of the corporation, which is pretty much what I’m talking about. Issue “share” fines constituting 50% + 1 of the ownership, and the former company no longer exists. Its assets are now yours to control.

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      it’s almost like they should, I dunno, make a regulation or something that says power lines must be underground or something.