I think the problem with btrfs is that it entered the spotlight way to early. With Wayland there was time to work on a lot of the kinks before everyone started seriously switching.

On btrfs a bunch of people switched blindly and then lost data. This caused many to have a bad impression of btrfs. These days it is significantly better but because there was so much fear there is less attention paid to it and it is less widely used.

  • @hummus273@feddit.orgEnglish
    1•5 days ago

    @hummus273 Xvnc does not allow you to display individual applications only an entire desktop. I’m monitoring about 20 different computers doing different things and for me it is a significant advantage not to have to bring up a whole desktop but to be able to launch a single graphical application on my existing desktop.

    Yes, that is what I meant with not as convenient.

    I don’t really understand the degree of emotional attachment people have to one solution or another. For me it’s a simple application case, for me Wayland is not desirable, not only does it not network

    Your use case is covered by waypipe (which in my tests is much more responsive than X11 forwarding).

    the embedded X-server as part of the kernel works very effectively by avoiding the kernel/userland switches an ordinary X server would require.

    I think you are confusing stuff here. Which kernel has an embedded X server?

    So for my use case, Wayland is NOT a replacement and so I have to object to people arguing that it is a full replacement for X, it is not.

    What part of your use case is not covered by waypipe?

    • nanook
      2•5 days ago

      @hummus273 Waypipe would involve a lot of userland / kernel exchanges avoided by using the kernel based mode setting Xserver. It happens to work well with my hardware. And I don’t see any noticeable latency issues and not all apps work with Wayland hence I have no motivation to change to Wayland and every motivation to avoid it. Sorry if that gets someone’s panties in a wad.

      • @hummus273@feddit.orgEnglish
        1•5 days ago

        Waypipe has nothing to do with the kernel mode setting driver. The X server code does not run in the kernel. Wayland compositors use kernel modesetting for mode changes, so not sure what your point is? Not saying you need to switch to Wayland, just saying that it covers the use case you described as impossible with Wayland.

        • nanook
          1•5 days ago

          @hummus273 Yes actually in my case it does. The kernel has an X-server built in but ONLY for Intel graphics and I happen to have Intel graphics. Sorry if you’re not familiar enough with X or the kernel to know that but that is a fact.

          • @hummus273@feddit.orgEnglish
            1•5 days ago

            If that is the case, then you can probably easily find the X server code in the Linux kernel and send a link? Spoiler: it is not there

            • nanook
              1•5 days ago

              @hummus273 I am mistaken, it is only the mode setting for the X-server that is handled in the kernel. At any rate it works well for my needs.